The Book of Cursed Earth T-Rex

[Yodaking]

Disagree completely. A no power card says, "we wanted to check off a box that says no one has ever made a no power card before" so that is what we did. It is otherwise boring, bland, and serves no purpose. 10 and 15 point common heroes have a power that gives them some game play purpose beyond a generic stats pawn. Generic common squads have a power that gives them some kind of flavor and usefulness. If you want to make a 1 power card where that 1 power is a negative effect, at least that would be interesting. A big empty box next to the stats is just very unappealing to me. If I'm browsing the 800+ cards with interesting text box powers and I see a blank slate where the individual powers are expected to be, I would think the card was incomplete. I most certainly wouldn't spend money to print it out and track down the mini's. That is my 2 cents on the issue.

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As for wanting and needing a cheap 60 point dino for a huge dino army, I think you would be better off making them a different species than T-Rex. That is the most famous and fearsome dino, so people have preconceived notions about them and expect them to be a threat to more than just the 60 point Jubilee. There are tons of dino's of all different shapes and sizes to choose from that people don't know and care about though. Pick a smaller one that isn't the thought of as the king of dinos to fill that 60 point filler role in the dino army.

It would also make it easier to acquire the minis and tell them apart on the battlefield if not every dino is a T-rex. Find a multi-pack of dino toys people can purchase in multiples, then make a card for each one of them to create a big dino army with the single purchase UH 2000AD T-Rex figure as the leaders of the army.






I had a bucket of generic dino toys as a kid, the one with the spiked spine, the triceratops with his 3 spears, and the club tailed tank were always a couple of my favorites since they had natural weapons beyond teeth and claws. When Hasbro introduced the Dinobots they gave us 5 different kinds of robot dinos to build. C3G should follow the same path and give it's players a variety of dinos to choose from or field all at once.

[Lazy Orang]

Originally Posted by Yodaking

Disagree completely. A no power card says, "we wanted to check off a box that says no one has ever made a no power card before" so that is what we did. It is otherwise boring, bland, and serves no purpose. 10 and 15 point common heroes have a power that gives them some game play purpose beyond a generic stats pawn. Generic common squads have a power that gives them some kind of flavor and usefulness. If you want to make a 1 power card where that 1 power is a negative effect, at least that would be interesting. A big empty box next to the stats is just very unappealing to me. If I'm browsing the 800+ cards with interesting text box powers and I see a blank slate where the individual powers are expected to be, I would think the card was incomplete. I most certainly wouldn't spend money to print it out and track down the mini's. That is my 2 cents on the issue.

I'm honestly with Yodaking here. I reckon a T-Rex is too interesting and cool to not have any powers, and blank power text would just look unfinished. I could see doing it as an April Fools unit, like that chap Ronin's been considering in the sanctum, but here? It feels off to me. A T-Rex needs that cool factor, and to be an impressive threat, not to feel unfinished.

Originally Posted by johnny139

Here's my defense of a powerless card here - who is this card for? Who is "generic dinosaur" going to appeal to? Dinosaur fans who want to build a dinosaur army. One power, that has negligible strategic relevance, doesn't diminish or undermine their appeal as generic pawns in a dino team-up.

However, the appeal for these guys is going to be minimal IN GENERAL outside of people that really want to go "T-Rex rawr smash smash" and eat Batman. If you're not into dinos, you're not going to be swayed by a "light touch" power on a generic unit.

But if you have a blank card... a card that's a completely blank slate... a card that says "look at my stats, I am going to go eat some fools..." now that's interesting. That's memorable.

A powerless card says more about a T-Rex than any power ever could.

I'm a dino-fan, and I'd be turned off by a no-power card.

Originally Posted by Tornado

There are four current T-Rex, one, Beast Boy is 60, Bob & Carol are 65, how can these generic T-Rex not be 60?

Yodaking's explained Beast Boy pretty well, and Bob & Carol are, essentially, two members of one of the game's premier Unique Squads, more than heroes in their own right - not technically, but effectively. That is how they were conceived. I'd want to see a generic T-Rex at at least 80, personally, probably closer to 100-120. As Yodaking said, the T-Rex is generally considered to be the biggest, baddest dinosaur (it technically isn't, that's more like a Spinosaurus or something I think, but the T-Rex is still among the scariest), not something a bit on the wimpy side points-wise. Other Dinos can fill that role - if you really want something cheaper and weaker, I'd suggest maybe an Allosaurus? A generic T-Rex ought to be worth more than Bucky.

[Tornado]

There are four current T-Rex, one, Beast Boy is 60, Bob & Carol are 65, how can these generic T-Rex not be 60?

[Yodaking]

Why does every dino have to be a T-Rex?

Beast Boy is just one of his forms. Beast Boy himself has a price and his other forms all have a price. You hit him hard enough and he just changes forms. You can technically draft a single form by itself, but it's not really a very good value or reflective of what fighting an all day, every day bear or cheetah would be like. A normal grizzle bear should come in at over 20 points, the dolphin form is priced at 30, but does anyone really think a dolphin is more formidable than a grizzly bear? I know which one I'd rather encounter in the wild. Mutt's Junkyard is a trained military dog, he'll be more than 20 points but I'd only give him 50/50 odds of surviving a Grizzly Bear one on one. I wouldn't ever expect Junkyard to take down a T-Rex by himself.

As for B&C, I don't know what is going on in 2000AD. From the outside looking in, I just assumed they were some kind of genetic experiment, a smaller, weaker species of dino bread to serve some purpose, or something else that explained why Robin was expected to take one down 1 on 1 and Mocking Bird is expected to hold here own vs 2 at once. They were dinos with specific names, so I assumed they had some kind of backstory.

[fret_gurglo]

I don't know the faction you are trying to create, but might I suggest Weak-Minded as a negative power. I could see dinos being used as powerful pawns in combat.

[Scapemage]

I share some of the reasons others have stated but not as strongly. I wouldn't end the world over a no-power card, but I think the design would be stronger with a short and sweet power included, as some others have said as well. I like Margloth's and Fret's suggestions.

Cost-wise, I don't think they need to land anywhere specific so I am fine with tuning them to land where you want them to land in the faction, Tornado.

[Tornado]

I proposed that in sanctum and it was not well received.

[Tornado]

You all.are.ignoring the theme because you have not read the comics or at least that is the best reason I can come.up with.
If anyone, anyone, wants to run any Dinosaur design, please do. I will support any direction you want to take it.

[Lazy Orang]

This doesn't seem a particularly comic-centric design. This is going to be C3G's rendition of a standard T-Rex - it should represent a wide-ranging, lunchbox definition of a T-Rex.

[Tornado]

Except I already said I would run a Savage Land T-Rex to finish off the faction.

[Lazy Orang]

Originally Posted by Tornado

Except I already said I would run a Savage Land T-Rex to finish off the faction.

And... what's that contradicting exactly?

[MrNobody]

Originally Posted by LordVenoc

Powerless card, while novel, feels a bit antithetical to the game itself with all that space for powers. I would agree with the idea of one simple power, echoing MrNobody there. A bunch of powerless pieces feels, while "powerless card" sounds interesting, a chunk of an army that is just the stats itself feels like it'll be boring more often than not.

Originally Posted by fret_gurglo

I don't know the faction you are trying to create, but might I suggest Weak-Minded as a negative power. I could see dinos being used as powerful pawns in combat.

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