The Book of Vision (Victor Shade) (Avengers)

[tcglkn]

Yea

[Tornado]

Yea

[IAmBatman]

Originally Posted by Arkham

I believe the default is no special attacks being modified, unless otherwise called out in the power to break that rule. So I'd imagine as worded should be fine.

I propose a vote to move to Initial Playtesting.

Fair enough. Might be worth an FAQ before Toyhandle asks.

yea

[Arch-vile]

yea

[Arkham]

This passes.

C3G INITIAL PLAYTEST FEEDBACK FORM

NAME OF THE TEST UNIT Vision

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Army Test 1
Map: Conflict Chernobyl
Units:
Vision(330), Cap(240), Ms. Marvel(350), Spider-Man(280) (1200)
vs.
Luke Cage(190), Iron Fist(260), Moon Knight(150), Shang-Chi(230), Punisher II(200), Tigra(170) (1200)

Spoiler Alert!

Attack Damage:
1 wound on Tigra(+1). (+1 from Cap)
1 wound on Luke Cage(+1, -1 shield). (+1 from Cap)
3 wounds on Iron Fist(-1 shield). (+1 from Cap)
2 wounds on Tigra(botch). (+1 from Cap)
1 wound on Tigra(-1 shield). (+1 from Cap)
2 wounds on Shang-Chi(-1 shield).
2 wounds on Punisher(+1, -1 shield). (+1 from height)

Analytical Avenger:
Rolls 4 skulls, 1 shield, and a blank.
Gives Spider-Man a shield.
Gives himself a skull.
Gives Ms. Marvel a skull
Gives himself a skull.
Gives Cap a skull.
Gives himself a blank to bump d20 roll by 2.

Density Disruption:
Removes OM3 from Luke Cage.
Removes OM3 from Tigra.
Removes OM3 from Punisher.

Reactionary Phasing:
Rolls a 2, fails.
Rolls a 3, fails.
Rolls a 20, succeeds.
Rolls a 1, fails.
Rolls an 11(+2)=13, succeeds.
Rolls a 6, fails.
Rolls a 7, fails.

Notes:
R1: Moon Knight puts a wound on Cap and Vision with CD. Cage puts 2 wounds on Spider-Man. Ms. Marvel puts a wound on Moon Knight. Iron Fist puts 2 wounds on Spider-Man, then heals a wound off Tigra. Cage kills Spider-Man.

R2: Moon Knight misses both CD attempts. Cage puts a wound on Cap. Cap puts a wound on Luke Cage. Iron Fist puts a wound on Ms. Marvel, then heals a wound off Cage. Ms. Marvel puts 2 wounds on Iron Fist. Ms. Marvel puts a wound on Cage.

R3: Cap and Ms. Marvel put a wound on Cage. Cage puts a wound on Ms. Marvel. Ms. Marvel kills Cage. Ms. Marvel kills Tigra.

R4: Moon Knight puts a wound on Cap and Ms. Marvel with CD. Cap puts 2 wounds on Moon Knight. Punisher kills Ms. Marvel(botch).

R5: Moon Knight misses both CD attempts. Shang-Chi kills Cap(botch, +1 auto). Shang puts 2 wounds on Vision(botch).

R6: Shang puts a wound on Vision. Moon Knight misses CD on Vision.

R7: Shang-Chi kills Vision(botch).


Moon Knight with 3/5 wounds. (2 life)
Shang-Chi with 2/5 wounds. (3 life)
Punisher with 2/5 wounds. (3 life)

Decent matchup. Even though there were 3 figures left standing for the enemy team, it felt like anyone's game. Had Vision rolled a little better on defense, and hit more Reactionary Phasing rolls, I think it would have been winnable/very close. Cost feels pretty accurate.

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Army Test 2
Map: Conflict Chernobyl
Units:
Vision(330), Cap(240), Star-Lord(250), Spider-Man(280) (1100)
vs.
Thor II(470), Valkyrie(350), Fandral(280) (1100)

Spoiler Alert!

Attack Damage:
5 wounds on Thor(-1 shield). (+2 from Cap and Star-Lord)
3 wounds on Fandral(+1). (+3 from Cap, Star-Lord, and height)
1 wound on Fandral(-1 shield). (+3 from Cap, Star-Lord, and height)
1 wound on Fandral(-1 shield), kills him. (+2 from Cap and height)

Analytical Avenger:
Rolls 2 skulls and 4 shields.
Gives Star-Lord a shield.
Gives himself a skull.
Gives Spider-Man a skull.
Gives Cap a shield.

Density Disruption:
Removes OM3 from Fandral.

Reactionary Phasing:


Notes:
R1: Star-Lord puts 3 wounds on Valkyrie. Thor puts a wound on Spider-Man, Cap, and Star-Lord with MM. Valkyrie puts 3 wounds on Star-Lord. Spider-Man puts 2 wounds on Thor.

R2: Cap kills Valkyrie(botch). Spider-Man kills Thor.

R3: Fandral kills Star-Lord. Spider-Man puts a wound on Fandral. Fandral puts 2 wounds on Cap.


Cap with 3/5 wounds. (2 life)
Spider-Man with 1/5 wounds. (4 life)
Vision unwounded.

Pretty solid victory here for the Avengers. They were rolling pretty hot and managed to decimate Thor and Valkyrie quickly.

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Army Test 3
Map: Conflict Chernobyl
Units:
Vision(330), Quicksilver(240), Ms. Marvel(350) (920)
vs.
Cap(240), Spider-Man(280), Silver Surfer(400) (920)

Spoiler Alert!

Attack Damage:
3 wounds on Cap(+1). (+1 from height)
2 wounds on Silver Surfer(-1 shield).
2 wounds on Silver Surfer(-1 shield).
2 wounds on Silver Surfer(-1 shield), kills him.
2 wounds on Cap(-1 shield), kills him. (+1 from height)
3 wounds on Spider-Man(-1 shield).
2 wounds on Spider-Man(-1 shield), kills him.

Analytical Avenger:
Rolls 5 skulls and 1 shield.
Gives Quicksilver a shield.
Gives himself a skull.
Gives himself a skull.
Gives himself a skull.
Gives himself a skull.
Gives himself a skull.

Density Disruption:
Removes OM2 from Silver Surfer.
Removes OMX from Silver Surfer.
Removes OMX from Spider-Man.

Reactionary Phasing:
Rolls 12, succeeds.
Rolls 2, fails.
Rolls 14, succeeds.
Rolls 18, succeeds.
Rolls a 7, fails.
Rolls a 14, succeeds.
Rolls a 1, fails.

Notes:
R1: Silver Surfer kills Quicksilver.

R2: Silver Surfer burns 3 unrevealed OMs, kills Ms. Marvel.

R3: Silver Surfer puts 2 wounds on Vision.

R4: Spider-Man puts a wound on Vision.


Vision with 3/6 wounds. (3 life)

Close match. Vision's Avengers lost Quicksilver quick, and Silver Surfer was doing quite well for the enemy team, but Vision managed to bring it back. Luck felt pretty even, if not just slightly in the favor of Vision specifically.

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Army Test 4
Map: Conflict Chernobyl
Units:
Vision(330), Thor(440), Spider-Man(280) (1050)
vs.
Cap(240), Ms. Marvel(350), Winter Soldier II(240), Hawkeye(220) (1050)

Spoiler Alert!

Attack Damage:
1 wound on Cap(-1 shield).
2 wounds on Ms. Marvel(-1 shield, +2).
3 wounds on Cap(-1 shield).
1 wound on Cap(-1 shield, +1), kills him. (+1 from height)

Analytical Avenger:
Rolls 3 skulls, 1 shield, and 2 blanks.
Gives himself a skull.
Gives himself a skull.
Gives Thor a skull.

Density Disruption:
Removes OM3 from Ms. Marvel.

Reactionary Phasing:
Rolls a 12, succeeds.
Rolls a 1, fails.

Notes:
R1: Thor puts 1 wound on Winter Soldier. Ms. Marvel puts a wound on Thor. Hawkeye negates Vision's Reactionary Phasing and puts 2 wounds on him. Thor uses Avenging Asgardian to put a wound on Hawkeye. Winter Soldier puts a wound on Vision.

R2: Vision takes a wound from WS's GYS. Winter Soldier puts 2 wounds on Spider-Man. Thor kills Ms. Marvel.

R3: Vision is killed by Winter Soldier's GYS. Thor uses AA to put 2 wounds on Winter Soldier. Winter Soldier puts 2 wounds on Thor. Thor kills Winter Soldier. Hawkeye puts 3 wounds on Thor. Thor puts 2 wounds on Hawkeye(botch) with his SA.

R4: Thor kills Hawkeye(botch).


Thor with 6/8 wounds. (2 life)
Spider-Man with 2/5 wounds. (3 life)

Pretty close match that saw Vision's Avengers have a bit more luck. 2 Defense rolls of Vision's had him rolling 4 shields out of 4 dice. Felt like anyone's game.

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THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT'S COST, BALANCE, & DRAFTABILITY:
He's a lot of fun. He feels like a solid alternative/additional booster for the Avengers, with lots of offensive potential and survivability to boot. 330 feels pretty good, with a potential 20 point bump depending on how other games play out.

[japes]

I somehow missed this guy but dang he looks like a crap ton of fun. Really excited here and I've never been a huge Vision guy.

[MrNobody]

Who really is a huge Vision guy?

[Lord Pyre]

Wanda?

[Karat]

Originally Posted by MrNobody

Who really is a huge Vision guy?

My optometrist

Looking good.

[japes]

Originally Posted by MrNobody

Who really is a huge Vision guy?

More as in...I didn't know he existed until the MCU came along.

My Marvel world was limited to X-Men, Hulk, and Spider-man essentially.

[Arkham]

I propose a vote to move to Public Playtesting.

[IAmBatman]

yea