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Old July 11th, 2009, 05:51 PM
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Re: Heroscape Power Rankings

DW9k special looks pretty good on paper. However, it is just one single attack, hard to get multiple targets and 3 attack dice can be sometimes be very underwhelming. Q9 special is far more versitile and reliable and easier to use.

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Old August 2nd, 2009, 04:34 AM
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Re: Heroscape Power Rankings

its good to see the arborn elites getting credit for once
i think the Drake alexanders should have scored better
i think Spatacus deserves a higher rank
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Old August 2nd, 2009, 05:29 AM
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Re: Heroscape Power Rankings

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its good to see the arborn elites getting credit for once
i think the Drake alexanders should have scored better
i think Spatacus deserves a higher rank
Seems like you are a new poster, perhaps you might want to give some detailed reasoning to your suggestions? Be interesting to hear why you think they are ranked too low.

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Old August 4th, 2009, 07:47 AM
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its good to see the arborn elites getting credit for once
i think the Drake alexanders should have scored better
i think Spatacus deserves a higher rank
Seems like you are a new poster, perhaps you might want to give some detailed reasoning to your suggestions? Be interesting to hear why you think they are ranked too low.
fine i think the elites deserve to be were there are because even through they easy to kill they can almost always have the hight advantage and that can mean 4(5) die per figure.

Drake should score higher beacause 5 wounds last a while and 6 attacks is nothing to forget about the only problem is the 3 defence.

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Old March 13th, 2010, 12:30 AM
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Re: Heroscape Power Rankings

The most overated figures on the current list are Theracus, Sacred Band, and Concan.

Concan is closer to a C- and I do not know if I have seen any tournament reports with any amount of people where the winner or close of a standard tournament had Theracus or the SB. Let's compare these units to some A- Units such as Nilfheim, AE, Braxas, Grimnak, and Q10. Even mentioning Concan in the same sentence as these units competitively is an insult, much less having the same rating. With Theracus and the SB at B+ it is basically saying that these units that never have tournament success are almost as viable as the A- units that tournament winning armies are centered around.
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Re: Heroscape Power Rankings

Concan's there because of him with Mass. 4/4, flying, 5 move, 5 life is a great cleanup fig for the Mass, plus he's only 80 points compared to other valiant heroes. The Sentinels are the same way. Sure, they have other purposes (ironically with Concan) but the main reason they're B+ is because they're valiant and solid, which makes a good combo with the Mass. I don't want to argue specific armies, but it's worth mentioning Concan/Mass x6 and Sentinels x2/Mass x4 are popular 500pt. Mass builds (each with strong results).

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Concan's there because of him with Mass. 4/4, flying, 5 move, 5 life is a great cleanup fig for the Mass, plus he's only 80 points compared to other valiant heroes. The Sentinels are the same way. Sure, they have other purposes (ironically with Concan) but the main reason they're B+ is because there valiant and solid, which makes a good combo with the Mass. I don't want to argue specific armies, but it's worth mentioning Concan/Mass x6 and Sentinels x2/Mass x4 are popular 500pt. Mass builds (each with strong results).
Not sure why you are talking about Sentinels since I think their ranking is fine. Also I am glad you agree about Theracus and the SB.

As others have said, Concan is not even close to A- even in a 4th Mass army. Look at Raelin vs Concan in a 4th Mass army. Their cost is the same, so compare their stats. Concan has +1 attack and +1 defense whereas Raelin has 1+ Movement and makes the entire army's Defense 4 instead of 3 which is very important. In heroscape raising up to 4 Defense is very, very important. There is almost no matchup where Concan is the best choice with the 4th Mass.
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Re: Heroscape Power Rankings

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The most overated figures on the current list are Theracus, Sacred Band, and Concan.

Concan is closer to a C- and I do not know if I have seen any tournament reports with any amount of people where the winner or close of a standard tournament had Theracus or the SB. Let's compare these units to some A- Units such as Nilfheim, AE, Braxas, Grimnak, and Q10. Even mentioning Concan in the same sentence as these units competitively is an insult, much less having the same rating. With Theracus and the SB at B+ it is basically saying that these units that never have tournament success are almost as viable as the A- units that tournament winning armies are centered around.
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Re: Heroscape Power Rankings (GenCon 2010 Response)

Really? Ne-Gok-Sa A B+? For me he always gets his kill's, I'd give him a A at the least.
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Re: Heroscape Power Rankings (GenCon 2010 Response)

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Really? Ne-Gok-Sa A B+? For me he always gets his kill's, I'd give him a A at the least.
What NGS does, nobody does better and he can be part of some extremely powerful Roman Legion armies. Unfortunately, he's probably third on my list for Warlords to accompany the Legos after Marcus and Mogrimm. Any other tournament-quality army he's in won't have as much synergy with him, reducing his effectiveness out of the A-range.

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Really? Ne-Gok-Sa A B+? For me he always gets his kill's, I'd give him a A at the least.
What NGS does, nobody does better and he can be part of some extremely powerful Roman Legion armies. Unfortunately, he's probably third on my list for Warlords to accompany the Legos after Marcus and Mogrimm.
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Re: Heroscape Power Rankings (D2 and D3 discussed)

Thats pretty cool you went through the trouble to make this list. I have to disagree on some characters though. I don't see how Eltahale made it in B+ and Master of the hunt didn't come in until C+. I can't see what the list is based off of. It seems like the list might have been made before everyone understood exactly how to play with them or hey what if you did; I guess everyone is entitled to there own opinions. I can't see the fact that supports the list though. I see a few players in the lower grade lists that are better than the ones in the higher lists.

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