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Old October 23rd, 2018, 12:41 PM
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Re: The Book of Sam (VOTE for Initial)

He will be nice with the Dark Judges if you drop Death. Probably toss in Jason.

Also for filler, Judge Fear would be nice in a lot of builds, especially if there a few figures without SS. He has a helpful static power and could be a threat himself with that Attack boost.
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Re: The Book of Sam (VOTE for Initial)

Yea, let's get this show on the road. We need to keep playtesting in house to fit the timeline.

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Re: The Book of Sam (VOTE for Initial)

I’m thinking we could prob drop his attack to 3 thanks to the boost he’ll likely get.
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Re: The Book of Sam (VOTE for Initial)

I'd be fine with that. He's only ever seen brutalizing helpless civilians despite his spooky powers.
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Re: The Book of Sam (Design Phase)

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Whenever a player rolls dice for a figure, you may reveal the "X" Order Marker on this card. If you control that figure and it has a Secret Identity, you may re-roll any dice rolled. If you do not, and it does not, that player must re-roll any dice rolled.

Sorry guy's haven't been following along here and I have no clue who this is. I've known or at least I was familiar with the existence of all the others but not this guy. Anyway I have a questions on intent here.

The first part is clear. If I reveal the "X" OM on Sam after my figure rolls dice I can choose to re-roll some of them. So if I roll an attack and get 3 skulls and 2 shields I can choose to re roll the Shields. Correct? This also works for LEA, 20 Sided Die rolls, and defense as well, Yes?

But if it's my opponent that rolled and I reveal the "X" who decides which dice are re rolled? Is it meant to say "that player must re-roll ALL dice rolled"?

The last any is what's throwing me off.

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Re: The Book of Sam (VOTE for Initial)

I interpret it as whoever controls the figure must re-roll all dice either way. If it's Sam's team gets to pick which ones to re-roll, whereas the opponent must re-roll all, that'd be fine too. We'll probably want some wording clarification.
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Re: The Book of Sam (VOTE for Initial)

Arkham is right on intent - you can choose to reroll ALL dice or force an opponent to reroll ALL dice. Wording definitely needs a hotfix, though, between that and thr general weirdness.

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Whenever a player rolls dice for a figure, you may reveal the "X" Order Marker on this card. If you control that figure and it has a Secret Identity, re-roll all dice. If you do not control that figure and it does not have a Secret Identity, the player that controls that figure must re-roll all dice.

I think that removes all ambiguity?
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Re: The Book of Sam (VOTE for Initial)

In that case wouldn't this be much easier since it doesn't matter who controls the player the controlling player must re-roll all dice.

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Re: The Book of Sam (VOTE for Initial)

Does "whenever" mean before, during, or after rolling dice?

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Re: The Book of Sam (VOTE for Initial)

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Arkham is right on intent - you can choose to reroll ALL dice or force an opponent to reroll ALL dice. Wording definitely needs a hotfix, though, between that and thr general weirdness.

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Whenever a player rolls dice for a figure, you may reveal the "X" Order Marker on this card. If you control that figure and it has a Secret Identity, re-roll all dice. If you do not control that figure and it does not have a Secret Identity, the player that controls that figure must re-roll all dice.

I think that removes all ambiguity?
So if you control it, but it doesn't have a secret identity, the power does nothing? The gap between the two conditions is still ambiguous - very easy to not meet either one.
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Re: The Book of Sam (VOTE for Initial)

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In that case wouldn't this be much easier since it doesn't matter who controls the player the controlling player must re-roll all dice.

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Whenever a player rolls dice for a figure, you may reveal the "X" Order Marker on this card. If you do that player must re-roll all dice.
That boxes out the Secret Identity stuff. The idea is he uses his powers to punish people who don't wear costumes and reward people who do. Rerolling dice is good for you, so you can only do it to your guys if they're in costume. It's bad for your opponents, so you can only do it to their guys if they're not in costume.

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Does "whenever" mean before, during, or after rolling dice?
After. That's clearer than whenever, so I'll change that.

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So if you control it, but it doesn't have a secret identity, the power does nothing? The gap between the two conditions is still ambiguous - very easy to not meet either one.
Correct. Why would he help you if you won't even dress up?

I think an "Otherwise, nothing happens" at the end would be mostly clear there.

We could also try to shuffle things around and just box in how the targeting works. Let me see how that might read:

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After dice are rolled for a friendly figure with a Secret Identity, or an opponent's figure without a Secret Identity you may reveal the "X" Order Marker on this card. If you do, the player that controls that figure must reroll all dice.
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Arkham is right on intent - you can choose to reroll ALL dice or force an opponent to reroll ALL dice. Wording definitely needs a hotfix, though, between that and thr general weirdness.

HALLOWED TRADITIONS
Whenever a player rolls dice for a figure, you may reveal the "X" Order Marker on this card. If you control that figure and it has a Secret Identity, re-roll all dice. If you do not control that figure and it does not have a Secret Identity, the player that controls that figure must re-roll all dice.

I think that removes all ambiguity?
So if you control it, but it doesn't have a secret identity, the power does nothing? The gap between the two conditions is still ambiguous - very easy to not meet either one.
And does Joker count as having a Secret ID since his Secret ID is ???

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