Fourth World Workshop (New Gods/Apokolips)

[Spidey'tilIDie]

Originally Posted by IAmBatman

I believe it was meant to stand up to Adamantium. @Spidey'tilIDie might recall better.

Actually, I went back and read like 12 pages to find this, Ultron is specifically intended to counter powers on Darkseid, Sinestro, Wolverine, and Punisher. Anything that would lower his Defense roll since he is an Event Hero with 4 Defense.

[IAmBatman]

Gotcha. Yeah, we might need to revisit the wording on ULTRON.

[johnny139]

NAME = GRANNY GOODNESS

SPECIES = NEW GOD
UNIQUENESS = UNIQUE HERO
CLASS = ELITE
PERSONALITY = JOCULAR

SIZE/HEIGHT = MEDIUM 5

LIFE = 7

MOVE = 4
RANGE = 4
ATTACK = 6
DEFENSE = 4

POINTS = 300

MASTER MANIPULATOR
After revealing an Order Marker on Granny's card, instead of taking that turn with Granny, you may take a turn with any Unique Hero you control within clear sight of Granny.

TOUGH LOVE
When attacking with a Common or Unique figure within 4 clear sight spaces of Granny, roll 1 fewer die and add one automatic skull to whatever is rolled. After attacking with that figure, if it did not inflict a wound, roll one unblockable attack die against that figure. Darkseid is never affected by Tough Love.

GRANNY'S CHILDREN
Opponents can never take temporary or permanent control of figures you control within clear sight of Granny.

SUPER STRENGTH

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Kind of a rough draft. I like Granny as the OM hub for Apokolips, and I think trading an attack die for an automatic skull reflects the sort of training regiment you'd expect from her. And I think there's some cool stuff you can do with a blanket protection against losing control of your figures. Just spitballing before bed, really!

[MrNobody]

The way I was thinking about it was making the Female Furies feel almost like a mini-faction within the larger Apokolips faction. So I was thinking something like this;

FEMALE FURIES
After revealing an Order Marker on Granny's card or Darkseid's card, instead of taking a turn with that figure, you may take a turn with up to two Unique Heroes you control with the Apokoliptian Grappling special power.

I feel like you could actually combine the two takes into something solid;

FEMALE FURIES
After revealing an Order Marker on Granny's card or Darkseid's card, instead of taking a turn with that figure, you may either take a turn with a Unique Hero you control or up to two Unique Heroes you control with the Apokoliptian Grappling special power. Figures taking a turn with Female Furies must be within clear sight of Granny.

Then modify Tough Love to somehow make it more punishing to constantly use those double turns?

I will say it seems like we'll have a crapton of attack dice stuff going on with this faction. Darkseid decreases them, and the current Desaad draft rerolls them. Personally I think it might make just a bit more sense to give Granny the rerolls and cut that from Desaad.

Just one more spitball, but what if (going off the idea of Granny being the OM management one) we really played off that crushing conformity feeling?

GRANNY'S CHILDREN
Opponents can never take temporary or permanent control of figures you control within clear sight of Granny that have no Order Markers on their card.

I like "not having OMs on your card" as a representation of the sort of mindless slavery that Granny tries to train into her recruits.

[IAmBatman]

Digging this general direction. Would really love to see Granny and Desaad both LDed in the near future.

[MrNobody]

I think Desaad is on you, mate.

[IAmBatman]

Originally Posted by MrNobody

I think Desaad is on you, mate.

Me?? That's bad news. I'm probably down to a 6 LD a year pace with the new rules.

[MrNobody]

NAME = GRANNY GOODNESS

SPECIES = NEW GOD
UNIQUENESS = UNIQUE HERO
CLASS = ELITE
PERSONALITY = JOCULAR

SIZE/HEIGHT = MEDIUM 5

LIFE = 7

MOVE = 4
RANGE = 4
ATTACK = 6
DEFENSE = 4

POINTS = 300

GRANNY'S CHILDREN
After revealing an Order Marker on Granny's card or Darkseid's card, instead of taking a turn with that figure, you may do one of the following;

• Take a turn with a Unique Hero you control.
• Take a turn with up to 2 Unique Heroes you control with the Apokoliptian Grappling special power, during which they cannot attack.
• Take a turn with up to 2 Unique Heroes you control with the Apokoliptian Grappling special power, during which they cannot move.

All figures taking a turn with Granny's Children must be within clear sight of Granny before taking a turn.

TOUGH LOVE
If you roll combat dice for a Unique or Common figure within 4 clear sight spaces of Granny and do not roll all skulls, you must reroll 1 die. If the result of that reroll is not a skull, immediately inflict 1 wound on that figure.

OBEDIENCE TRAINING
Opponents can never take temporary or permanent control of figures you control within clear sight of Granny that have no Order Markers on their card.

SUPER STRENGTH

Here's what I'm thinking, more fleshed out.

[Tornado]

Is Tough Love supposed to work on defense rolls?

[MrNobody]

I kind of like that it does cause it pushes her army to be more aggressive, but maybe it can be changed to just attack dice (which would cut out Apokoliptian Grappling).

[Tornado]

Tough indeed.
Not against it, just wanted to clarify.
Would that wording allow for modification of SAs or is that a hard rule that has to be expressed explicitly to override?
It would apply to any special power that uses combat dice though correct? Like MM1's movement power?

[MrNobody]

Modifying stuff like MM1's roll does sound kind of wonky.