Public Design Workshop

[IAmBatman]

"These arrows fire bullets. No, really."

Hawkeye (all versions), Green Arrow (all versions), Merlyn, Speedy/Red Arrow are the usual suspects.

[Lord Pyre]

Arrowette too.

[redstang]

Originally Posted by japes

First, I'd love to see another version of the big guy. It would make it easier for me to justify the price of this guy. I want him but still don't have him. So I'm all for another version.

Second, That's a crap ton of text and may not fit on the card.

Third, Auto destroy powers, No thanks.

On the contrary, you could just give him the Quiver power that lets him choose 4 Arrow Glyphs and you can design your Flash Bang and Adhesive Glyphs with this guy. Or if you want him limited to just those two just start him with those two Glyphs. But then you will have two glyphs done that will inspire someone to jump into the full blown Quiver power that we've been discussing for years, but no one has started. You could be just the person to kickstart it.

Long story short, don't think you have to wait for a Hero to design GAIII before that concept is realized.

If Auto destroy powers are so frowned upon, then why do they exist on other cards like Psylocke, Gorgon, and Darkseid? I'm not meaning to antagonize, just want to know if there is a general movement here away from such powers and the reasons behind it. I find them exciting to play against and with as they raise the stakes of encounters with such figures.

[IAmBatman]

Darkseid was part of World's Finest and the other two are designs 220 and 221 respectively. We most recently wrapped design 1148.

I say this not as an explanation for why others don't like auto destroy powers (that's not my pulpit, just one I'm aware of), but more to demonstrate why the examples you mention might not align with more recent aesthetic since they were designed a decade or more ago.

[MrNobody]

I'll say that I'm in not totally against auto-destroys like some others seem to be, but the main argument against them is that they lead to gameplay experiences that are incredibly swingy and hard to balance. Psylocke, Darkseid, and Gorgon are all (relatively) older figures, and I think many people now have a different design philosophy than when they were made.

That's not to say that auto-destroys can never be done, or are inherently terrible, but I think that's mostly where the hesitation is coming from.

A lot of our more recent stuff has allowed you to auto-destroy/do something similar, but only under certain conditions. I think Liu Kang is a fun example, where he allows you to do it, but only if the figure is damaged enough. (Fatality!) That could maybe work here, with Apoc only being able to absorb an figure that is "weakened" enough. Seems like it would fit pretty well with his whole Darwinism aesthetic.

[Tornado]

They would be way easier to balance if C3G allowed for a point mechanic.

[japes]

Some one throw down a solid Psylocke II design without an auto destroy and I'll nominate it next round.

[IAmBatman]

Hooded Justice is getting my nomination if I remember.

[japes]

Originally Posted by FreshFoods

What characters could use Arrow Glyphs in the future?

If anyone else is interested in this, I found this website that's all about trick arrows, some of them are pretty interesting ideas. I'm partial to the Gun Arrow, personally

And artemis.

[japes]

Originally Posted by IAmBatman

Trick Arrows should be an Event Card.

It very well could be.

Could be an common/ uncommon event? You can draft said event multiple times if you have multiple archers.

Now we just need glyphs

[Tornado]

Event-ually

[IAmBatman]

I think if it's an Event Card you just list the "trick arrow" powers and you have markers for them on that card. No need to involve glyphs.