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Re: The Book of Evil Ernie ~ Vote for Initial

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Re: The Book of Evil Ernie ~ Vote for Initial

I'd put the Glyph power first, yeah. You "start the game" with the glyph already on the card, so it sort of exists before the game even starts... while the choosing a Hell Lord is AT the start of the game.

Yea here as well. I'm not overly concerned about him being a must have Undead leader or whatever, since we already have Dracula and some other guys that fill that role. (Though looking at the synergies archive not as many as I thought... just Dracula, Judge Death, and Sam, really.)
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Re: The Book of Evil Ernie ~ Vote for Initial

I'm totally fine with him being a good leader too, it fits his character. Though I like we moved away from the OM manipulation leader power I originally had, makes him more unique and different enough from Dracula and the like.

THIS PASSES!

Tornado had an idea with him and just a bunch of the Walking Dead zombies. I'm thinking that's probably his best bet before we finalize his squad. Any other thoughts?
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Old January 27th, 2020, 08:00 PM
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Re: The Book of Evil Ernie ~ Initial testing phase

Yeah, spamming cheap Undead with him makes a lot of sense. Are there any Undead Heroes who especially benefit from the boosts he hands out?

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Re: The Book of Evil Ernie ~ Initial testing phase

Lurkers and Walkers.
I posted a bunch of army ideas in the workshop thread.
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Re: The Book of Evil Ernie ~ Initial testing phase

We don’t have unique specified, so Crow would be really good, being a relatively cheap hero. Also as written he boosts himself. I guess thematically he learns with his dead ones, but he also never shows himself getting physically more powerful the bigger army he has, so not sure if we should keep or not. I suppose it could represent his confidence, since that waxes and wanes through the series! I’ll keep it in for now and see how it feels.
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Re: The Book of Evil Ernie ~ Initial testing phase

Ah, I thought the self-boosting was intentional!

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Re: The Book of Evil Ernie ~ Initial testing phase

Getting a start here! I don't like the engagement clause, it encourages Ernie to NOT kill things, when he really should be. So maybe it should be an aura instead? The guy is terrifying, and folks seeing him regularly scream "oh the humanity!" (Not the greatest dialogue but whatever ). I was going to suggest changing it so if Ernie was engaged at any part of his turn, but then when he killed someone, all zombies lost their defense bonus, which didn't feel great. Thoughts?

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C3G STANDARD PLAYTEST FEEDBACK FORM

NAME OF THE PLAYTEST UNIT: Evil Ernie

Army Test
Map: Custom
Units: Ernie, Walkers x10, Lurkers x4 (1000)

Vs.

X-Men



Spoiler Alert!

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Army Test
Map: Custom
Units: Evil Ernie, Vampire Minions x3, Walkers x5, Lurkers x3

Vs

X-Men


Spoiler Alert!

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Army Test
Map: Custom
Units: Evil Ernie (400), Lady Death, Vassago, Walker x8, Lurker x2 (1310)

Vs.

Fan Four + She-Hulk (1310)



Spoiler Alert!

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THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT'S COST, BALANCE, & DRAFTABILITY:
He’s super fun! You have to weigh the options of sending him out first to boost his team’s movement and stats, or send out his team first so they’re within attack distance. The last game with Lady Death I rarely even used any zombies (Honestly forgot to use Walking Dead a lot of the time, it sucks learning too many figures at once!). Sure it was a blowout, but team Hell had some serious luck wrecking Sue, then Reed shortly after. The FF isn’t great against tons of squads either, so they wouldn’t have been able to do much to the zombies even if they tried, most likely. He’s definitely draftable with our current undead commons, and Lady Death was a huge help, since she loves the boosts he gives her.


GENERAL THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT:
The Vampires love him. It’s fun to use them again. They kind of dropped out of the spotlight, but boosting their stats is huge. The walkers are still BETTER, since respawning is very useful for keeping the boosts. I might always bring a Hell Lord, though, for some versatility though. Lady Death brought another heavy hitter much like Ernie himself. I could see Hellstrom being useful with slinging spells. But Ernie definitely makes a zombie apocalypse army viable in my opinion!

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Re: The Book of Evil Ernie ~ Initial testing phase

Hmm, how about ...

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If Evil Ernie has attacked at least one enemy figure this round and the number of Undead figures you control is:
* 4 or more, add 1 to the move of his Beloved and all Undead you control; and
* 6 or more, add 1 to the defense of his Beloved and all Undead you control; and
* 8 or more, add 1 to the attack of his Beloved and all Undead you control.

Cuts out the initiative part, but will you really miss that? And then encourages you to be aggressive with him. Just a thought. There are other ways to do it that change less, I'm sure.

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Re: The Book of Evil Ernie ~ Initial testing phase

I like it. You pretty much want OM 1 on him at all times then. I’ll try that next, and if it still doesn’t feel right then I’ll swap to some sort of aura!
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Re: The Book of Evil Ernie ~ Initial testing phase

Cool beans. Yeah, not a lot of designs that let you activate and attack with an Event Hero on their Order Marker, so you'll pretty much have to put OM1 on him and try to attack.

I think the theme is solid too - when he's being brutal and attacking, it revs up his demonic underlings.

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Re: The Book of Evil Ernie ~ Initial testing phase

Yep that totally fits. He’s kind of like Captain America in a way, which is neat.

He’s the president of the Psychotic States of America (what he calls East of the Mississippi which he totally wiped out) so there’s a patriotic synergy too.
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