The Book of Vandal Savage

[IAmBatman]

I think SW is the only active one.

[Arch-vile]

Updated the SP with the suggested tweaks. I'll tag SW over on discord and ask him to take a look here.

[japes]

does he suffer from the big figure with huge SA weakness?

I love the rest though. Really cool.

[LordVenoc]

The no additional turns language I think cancels out TMNT. Temporal defense would have a lot of markers to make use of, but it would be a single round and there are better and cheaper ways to go about trying to shut down an opponent like that that isn't using up the marquee power here just to stall.

[Lord Pyre]

Cool design! I'm planning on playing around with a second set of Order Markers in a design soon too. It's a cool way of handling Vandal.

[IAmBatman]

Originally Posted by LordVenoc

The no additional turns language I think cancels out TMNT.

It does if you use the power to both place Order Markers and activate figures.

If you instead use it to place Order Markers and then just use Turtle Power to activate figures, you can do a full team activation on Order Marker 1 and do it again on Order Marker 2.

[LordVenoc]

Originally Posted by IAmBatman

It does if you use the power to both place Order Markers and activate figures.

If you instead use it to place Order Markers and then just use Turtle Power to activate figures, you can do a full team activation on Order Marker 1 and do it again on Order Marker 2.

I think that's an ambiguity of clauses thing. I interpret the "may not take additional turns" as just being a general piece of the whole puzzle, not only triggering if you're at the phase of choosing which to activate first. It is two sentences being joined by a conjunction, so it reads the "You may not take any additional turns" is a lone sentence, so its either on or off, you're using the power, or you aren't. Placing Markers and using markers aren't separate pieces that one affects the no turns and one doesn't.

[Arch-vile]

I struggle to follow that reasoning personally, but the addition here should fix it regardless.

PLANNED FOR CENTURIES
Once per game, when placing Order Markers at the start of a round, you may place an additional set of Order Markers on your cards. You may reveal two matching Order Markers on your turn on different Army Cards, taking a turn with each card. You may choose which card to activate first, and when taking turns this wayyou may not take any additional turns.

[LordVenoc]

To clarify what I'm saying, it reads (at least how I read the clauses) like this:

PLANNED FOR CENTURIES
Once per game, when placing Order Markers at the start of a round, you may place an additional set of Order Markers on your cards. You may reveal two matching Order Markers on your turn on different Army Cards, taking a turn with each card. You may choose which card to activate first. You may not take any additional turns.

vs like this, which is how it seems others were reading it:

PLANNED FOR CENTURIES
Once per game, when placing Order Markers at the start of a round, you may place an additional set of Order Markers on your cards. You may reveal two matching Order Markers on your turn on different Army Cards, taking a turn with each card. You may choose which card to activate first. If you reveal more than one Order Marker in this way, you may not take any additional turns.

Semantics, regardless. Your fix still I think I can read how Bats is saying, where if you only reveal one, you can burn the others for the turtles.

[Arch-vile]

That makes sense. I'm happy going with that wording.

[Tornado]

I think The Doctor(11) totally nullifies him?

[MrNobody]

Ooh yeah, the Doctor and anybody with a Temporal Inversion spell. That’s niche but nasty.