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Old August 11th, 2022, 10:28 AM
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Re: Heroscape 2nd Edition is here!

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Would leaving the figures unpainted affect the way hit zones are identified? I recall that being a requirement for 3D-printed figures brought to ScapeCon.
For official figures, you would just use the hit reference outline on the card.

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Re: Heroscape 2nd Edition is here!

Imagine my surprise when during a 40k game yesterday I mentioned how I used to play heroscape as a kid and then the guy goes "Heroscape? I didn't think that was out yet."

Amazing. Absolutely stunning news. I should have held on to my Zelrig.
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Re: Heroscape 2nd Edition is here!

And how surprised was he to find out HS has a history..?
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Re: Heroscape 2nd Edition is here!

Thanks for the responses!

Also, I haven't seen much attention drawn to this yet, but the new logo looks fantastic. I am excited to see the new box art, especially in the tangible.
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Old August 11th, 2022, 11:57 AM
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Re: Heroscape 2nd Edition is here!

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I haven't looked at the old Master Sets regarding factions before, but a question came up about AOA that had me glancing back. Looking at the old Heroscape Master Sets regarding Factions, we had:

Rise of the Valkyrie: A Few units of many Generals for endless possible army combinations.

Swarm of the Marro: Unique Heroes from various Generals vs The Marro.

Marvel Scape: Good Guys vs Bad Guys.

Battle For The Underdark: Unique Heroes from various Generals vs The Drow.

So, the new general question is, how will Factions be presented in Age of Annihilation? We know that some will be from the new "unaligned" Dawnraider Guild Pirates. What Factions also be included with in AOA? Will it be Unique Heroes (and possibly squads) from various Generals, or something else?
It looks like it is going to be this Dawn Raider Syndicate vs... monsters?

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Re: Heroscape 2nd Edition is here!

"Groot, Wendigo Edition"

I am really curious about where this creature comes from. It reminds me strongly of a Wendigo. Although it looks like it is a creature of nature, I suspect it's some kind of evil/corrupted nature spirit and probably serves Valkrill or maybe Utgar.



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Re: Heroscape 2nd Edition is here!

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Thanks for the responses!

Also, I haven't seen much attention drawn to this yet, but the new logo looks fantastic. I am excited to see the new box art, especially in the tangible.
Totally agreed. The new logo is awesome.

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Re: Heroscape 2nd Edition is here!

We had extensive debate amongst ourselves about what the tournament scene will look like after the release. AH staff did not weigh in for the most part, but on the subject of proxying, Nadeua/Encarmine did have the following to say...

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It’s first and foremost a question for the tournament players. Proxy miniatures can be confusing to newer players, and lead to even unintentional unconscious bias when the models are not 1:1 for true line of sight. Is that something the community wants to deal with? It’s not simply an issue of a company wanting sales, it’s the possibility that the fairness of competitive gameplay can so easily be put into question, and then we lose so much more then the subjectivity of a cooler looking sculpt on the tabletop.

It’s a difficult topic. As a 40K player for decades, I feel like I’ve lived through all this in a prior existence.

You all will ultimately determine those answers

If the fans want tournaments, tournaments there shall be. If fans want proxies in those tournaments, organizers will bend. If fans rage on unfair competitive advantages, proxies will get banned.

If fans want Grut War Mammoths…

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Re: Heroscape 2nd Edition is here!

My stance, at this moment, for tournaments that I am involved in running is:
  • every event will allow 2.0 HS
  • some events may be 2.0 only, depending on the voiced preferences of the people that are active in my local community
  • events will generally include 1.0 and VC. I have a lot of dials to turn to keep this from being unpleasant for 2.0-only players: I can allow proxies, I can have ban lists, I can use Delta points for 1.0 and VC, and I can do draft formats (take 2, pod drafts, reverse draft, etc.)
I can rotate through all of the above so people get a variety of experiences.
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I am curious if if they'll actually include point values on the army cards when they're printed or if they'll go the X-Wing 2e route and set the point values in an app for live updates.

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Re: Heroscape 2nd Edition is here!

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we had extensive debate amongst ourselves about what the tournament scene will look like after the release. Ah staff did not weigh in for the most part, but on the subject of proxying, nadeua/encarmine did have the following to say...

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Originally Posted by encarmine
it’s first and foremost a question for the tournament players. Proxy miniatures can be confusing to newer players, and lead to even unintentional unconscious bias when the models are not 1:1 for true line of sight. Is that something the community wants to deal with? It’s not simply an issue of a company wanting sales, it’s the possibility that the fairness of competitive gameplay can so easily be put into question, and then we lose so much more then the subjectivity of a cooler looking sculpt on the tabletop.

It’s a difficult topic. As a 40k player for decades, i feel like i’ve lived through all this in a prior existence.

You all will ultimately determine those answers

if the fans want tournaments, tournaments there shall be. If fans want proxies in those tournaments, organizers will bend. If fans rage on unfair competitive advantages, proxies will get banned.

If fans want grut war mammoths…
i want grut war mammoths



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Re: Heroscape 2nd Edition is here!

I'll second the want for grut war mammoths.

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