The Book of Bat-Hound

[IAmBatman]

This passes. #1229, I believe. Woof.

[tcglkn]

This needs to be updated to "with the identity of Bruce Wayne" pretty sure it is supposed to work with more than just the Civilian design.

[IAmBatman]

Good catch. Text updated in the first two powers.

[IAmBatman]

After some discussion and further play with Ace, I want to make a two part proposal:

A) In order to shut down using Ace to attack with VDOs, I propose the following change to Dynamic Doggo from this:

DYNAMIC DOGGO
After revealing an Order Marker on the Army Card of a figure with the identity of Bruce Wayne or any other Companion you control and taking a turn, you may move and attack with Bat-Hound.

to this:

DYNAMIC DOGGO
After revealing an Order Marker on the Army Card of a figure named Bruce Wayne or any other Companion you control and taking a turn, you may move Bat-Hound. If he ends this move engaged, you may also immediately attack with Bat-Hound.

Since you're not engaged with outside figures when inside a VDO it prevents him from shenanigans. It also stops him from picking up a hypothetical ranged weapons glyph and firing from range with the power.

B) After looking at the tests again, I feel he wasn't turn maximized with all the bonding options available to various Bruce Waynes. The closest he came was in the initial, where he arguable held up fine at 70 points. Therefore I'd like to reopen his final cost to additional consideration. To that end, I want to run a couple of tests with him at 60 points with Batman (I), Wonder Woman (JL), Green Arrow (JL), and Black Canary (JL) at 1000 points to see if his cost should go up or if further tweaks seem needed.

@tcglkn @fret_gurglo @LordVenoc @Lord Pyre @Arch-vile @MrNobody @Dr. Jekyll

[MrNobody]

It’s not a turn, so he can’t end the turn engaged. Otherwise, .

[tcglkn]

Yea, but it needs to say "ends this movement engaged" since it's not a turn.

[IAmBatman]

Derp. Changed "turn" to "move" in the proposal.

[fret_gurglo]

Yea

[LordVenoc]

Yea

[Arch-vile]

Bat-Hound felt fine to me in my Batman Family games, FWIW.

Yea

[Dr. Jekyll]

Yea

[IAmBatman]

Originally Posted by Arch-vile

Bat-Hound felt fine to me in my Batman Family games, FWIW.

Yea

Glad to hear it! Hoping no major changes are needed in terms beyond the possible points tweak and the wording change to cut out VDO attacks. Getting him behind the wheel of the Batmobile or something and that being his best move offensively is something I want to avoid, though, and that wasn't tested really.

Down to LP and I'll put it on my testing queue.