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C3G Legacy Library This is the archive for all the designs released in the original era of C3G. Feel free to post any figure specific questions in their individual books.


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Old February 1st, 2019, 12:51 PM
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Re: The Book of Peter Stanchek (Public Playtesting)

I found a very similar background to #1 which is a larger file for clarity. For comic, I'm currently using #2 since it matches the miniature in the blue color.

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Old February 1st, 2019, 10:12 PM
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Re: The Book of Peter Stanchek (Public Playtesting)

#2 is a good choice

Would I want it to be everything I love...sure...but that's just not realistic so I'm going to focus on finding things that will make me unhappy and work on fixing those.
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Old February 4th, 2019, 02:04 AM
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Re: The Book of Peter Stanchek (Public Playtesting)

Just built my armies for my next test. New map, new builds. Let's see how he does this time around.

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Old February 4th, 2019, 02:01 PM
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Re: The Book of Peter Stanchek (Public Playtesting)

Awesome to hear. I'm curious if you're using Captain Britain again? I wouldn't call it necessary anymore. After the tests so far, it sounds like that combo isn't as powerful as I worried, especially since it cuts off his ability to use telepathic command.
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Old February 4th, 2019, 04:41 PM
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Re: The Book of Peter Stanchek (Public Playtesting)

No Brits this time!

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C3G STANDARD PLAYTEST FEEDBACK FORM

NAME OF THE PLAYTEST UNIT: Peter Stanchek again!

Army Test
Map: Pool of Reflection
Units: Peter Stanchek (360), Count Vertigo, Martian Manhunter (I), and Dagger (1000) vs. Mister Fantastic, Invisible Woman, The Thing, Human Torch (I) (1000).
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Army Test
Map: Pool of Reflection
Units: Peter Stanchek (360), Count Vertigo, Martian Manhunter (I), and Dagger (1000) vs. Wendigo, Star-Lord, Rocket Raccoon (I), and Domino (1000).
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THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT'S COST, BALANCE, & DRAFTABILITY: What a wild performance from the heroic squad in Game One. The army composition worked just as I anticipated (see overview at bottom)! It’s a nice pod with movement, attack prevention, range reduction, and negation potential. Plus, Dagger and Peter had the edge being able to hit Invisible Woman from range.

Game Two was a lot worse for Peter’s team, but the army still held up and Peter was effective. He found good use in everything except Sting Scream this time, including a great normal attack and flying movement. 360 is feeling a lot more right for him.


GENERAL THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT: The idea behind this army for Peter is to allow him to be the main damage source while providing negation techniques alongside Count Vertigo. Martian Manhunter keeps the crew mobile for positioning reasons and provides an additional source of ranged damage. Dagger rounds it out with a bit of utility in Sensory Assault.

Peter was more fun this time. Telepathic Command is rare but feels good to pull off. Sting Scream never once nullified over my four games, but it did deal some good damage one time. Overall, he offers a lot of utility and a decent attacking body.

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Old February 4th, 2019, 05:29 PM
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Re: The Book of Peter Stanchek (Public Playtesting)

Some numbers then after reviewing tests and extrapolating a few of the numbers from info I have:

Across 11 games Peter:
  • Dealt 55 wounds with his normal attack, averaging 5 per game. If you take out the high and low outliers (2 11s, and 2 0s) his average drops to 4.7 wounds per game.
  • Averaged around 4 attempts with Telepathic Command per Game, averaging less that one success per game. This gives him a 22% success rate, coming slightly under what the dice would dictate, but I don't consider that bad, especially with the eventual boon if/when more Psiots come along.
  • Sting Scream did a total of 8 wounds across 11 games, with around 16 attempts. Only in the first game at 360 did he do more than 1 damage with this attack in a game.
  • He has a 31.25% success rate at successfully Stinging, again coming in under the statistical rate of about 42% chance at getting at least one blank with three dice.

I'm liking him at 360 overall. I think abilities that were concerning for others are coming in fairly appropriately costed. Thoughts before heading to Final Editing?
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Old February 4th, 2019, 05:50 PM
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Re: The Book of Peter Stanchek (Public Playtesting)

Thank you for the detailed stats. I'll give a pre-yea for Final Editing now. 360 felt a lot better, and I think he landed in a better army too.

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Old February 4th, 2019, 07:02 PM
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Re: The Book of Peter Stanchek (Public Playtesting)

Really nice work here LV.
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Old February 4th, 2019, 08:35 PM
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Re: The Book of Peter Stanchek (Public Playtesting)

pre-yea for Editing.
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Old February 4th, 2019, 09:06 PM
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Re: The Book of Peter Stanchek (Public Playtesting)

Pre-Yea for Final Editing
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Old February 4th, 2019, 11:36 PM
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Re: The Book of Peter Stanchek (Public Playtesting)

With this many pre-yeahs, I will propose we move to final editing @360 points!
For my own tracking purposes:

Scapemage - Yea
Ronin - Yea
Karat - Yea


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As the two heroes with some real familiarity with Pete, I'd really love to hear from at least one of you here.
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Old February 5th, 2019, 10:20 AM
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Re: The Book of Peter Stanchek (Vote for Final Editing)

Yea

He looks good to me and I think that's an appropriate point range. So cool to see Valiant coming together!
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