Age of Annihilation - Backer Trend and Discussion

[GamerDad74]

Thanks, Grungebob.

[caps]

As I promised earlier, I have increased my pledge again today for a final time.

[Rÿchean]

we've picked up 45 units in the last 75 minutes, .6 per minute.

(edit - .64 per min, as of 11am CST, 4077 units)

While that isn't enough, if that holds through the rest of the day we will be over 4500.

[chas]

Hah! By rights, we should have just earned the Stretch Goals.

Fly, Drake!

[Shurrig]

Not to harp on this point again but the transformers haslab has been getting ~100 backers per day. At the rate they were going, they may not have reached their funding. Now, all of a sudden (unless i missed something), they are within shooting range of funding that project because there was a random 2000 backer increase. What happened? are they fudging numbers here or what?

[EricTheGreat1999]

Originally Posted by nyys

Not sure I'd call it artificially inflated (or at least not in the sense that AH didn't think about how 8000 orders doesn't mean 8000 backers). Reason I say that is with the Haslab allowing for a maximum of 5 sets to be ordered, they had to have taken into account (in a worst case scenario of course) that there would be only 1600 backers to get to 8K (and possibly fewer than that for anyone who took it a step further and created a second account or got a family member to place an order that they would pay for).

Usually, I think, when formulating a plan you take the worst case scenario, decide if it will still work and go from there. So even though 1600 backers would not have been where they wanted to be, I would think they at least took the possibility into account. Giving too much credit?

Good analysis. The problem though is that this project is not going to fund, so people are increasing their already existing pledges en-masse to give the impression that there is momentum behind this project, even though we couldn't get to half the backers until we got to the 45 day mark.

Ultimately @Dad_Scaper is right- the final number is the final number

[brak88]

Originally Posted by Shurrig

Not to harp on this point again but the transformers haslab has been getting ~100 backers per day. At the rate they were going, they may not have reached their funding. Now, all of a sudden (unless i missed something), they are within shooting range of funding that project because there was a random 2000 backer increase. What happened? are they fudging numbers here or what?

Is there something more than meets the eye going on here?

Perhaps purchasing robots in disguise?

['Scaper94]

Originally Posted by Shurrig

Not to harp on this point again but the transformers haslab has been getting ~100 backers per day. At the rate they were going, they may not have reached their funding. Now, all of a sudden (unless i missed something), they are within shooting range of funding that project because there was a random 2000 backer increase. What happened? are they fudging numbers here or what?

I wouldn't put it past a tanking billion-dollar company to internally pump their own numbers to avoid more failed projects on their scoreboard. Far more questionable practices have been done for far less stakes. But, I'm a cynic.

[Shurrig]

Originally Posted by brak88

Is there something more than meets the eye going on here?

Perhaps purchasing robots in disguise?

Roll out! I guess it would look bad if haslab had 5 failed projects in a row, and they’d rather pump the numbers for their historically more successful IP. Imagine them not even being able to sell a transformer, that would look terrible.

[brak88]

Originally Posted by EricTheGreat1999

Good analysis. The problem though is that this project is not going to fund, so people are increasing their already existing pledges en-masse to give the impression that there is momentum behind this project, even though we couldn't get to half the backers until we got to the 45 day mark.

Ultimately @Dad_Scaper is right- the final number is the final number

Maybe Hasbro is playing chicken with people doing last minute momentum boosting "false buys" to then say "hey, we're funding regardless."

Though I'm sure that's why they probably might not even be able to do that with the way it's written so people don't go, "oh, I didn't mean to purchase 10+ plus copies. I was just doing false buys and would've pulled out of it was closer to 8K.

[Shurrig]

I don’t think so lol, but I appreciate the wishful thinking. Might be cruel to those who are doing it to artificially increase the backer total at this point. I’m still sitting at 1 set backed and may boost it before the end, if they pulled a fast one like that on all of us I surely wouldn’t be able to afford it.

[Grungebob]

Inflating the number of copies you’re pledging because you know it won’t fund, is sending the wrong message. It’s sending a false signal to Hasbro. I’m not saying it’s wrong in a moral sense, or that the spirit behind it is misplaced, but if you think you’re sending the right message, I want you to know that you aren’t. Stick to your typical purchasing sensibilities and let them see the real numbers so they can more accurately analyze their failure and course correct if they choose.