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Old September 26th, 2023, 01:06 PM
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Gamera

GAMERA



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NAME = GAMERA
IDENTITY = N/A

UNIQUENESS = EVENT HERO
SPECIES = KAIJU
CLASS = GUARDIAN
PERSONALITY = TENACIOUS

SIZE/HEIGHT = HUGE 15

LIFE = 12

MOVE = 6
RANGE = 1
ATTACK = 7
DEFENSE = 6

POINTS = 1000

SPINNING FLAME SHELL SPECIAL MOVE
Move 8.
Gamera gains Flying and Stealth. After moving, roll 1 damage die against each figure that Gamera passed over.

PLASMA FLAME SPECIAL ATTACK
Range 5. Attack 5. Heat.
All figures, other than Gamera, adjacent to the target are also affected. If a figure takes 1+ wounds, roll 1 Heat damage die against that figure for each wound taken.

HUGE SHELL WITHDRAWAL
Once per round, after Gamera is targeted for an attack or ability, you may reveal Order Marker X on this card to ignore all wounds for this turn.

FACTION = N/A
PUBLISHER = Daiei Film
KEYWORDS = N/A
SYMBOLS = HEAT RESISTANCE, SUPER STRENGTH
WINTER 2024: Gamera! The Invincible! The Guardian of the Universe! The Original Mutant Turtle! The only Turtle that can spin like a helicopter and fly through the air shooting fire out of his limb-holes!

Resources and Rulings
• The suggested figure for this unit is a Bandai Movie Monsters Series figure: Gamera (1995)
•Basing Clarification: Gamera's feet are each based on a single base, and his feet are always two spaces apart from each other. Gamera uses the Irregular Base Movement Rules. The image below shows a few possible orientations with a single foot planted:
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• See this card's wiki page for synergies and strategies!

Credits
• Legacy design: Lord Pyre
• Card art: japes
• Creators: Yonejiro Saito, Masaichi Nagata, Hidemasa Nagata, and Noriaki Yuasa

Updates
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Last edited by japes; February 11th, 2024 at 11:52 AM.
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Re: Gamera - Design

No changes planned, unless others have played him recently and have tweaks.

Dang this card gets WAY more streamlined in 2.0. Nice.

@toyhandle any thoughts on a new publisher and keywords or symbols?
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Old September 26th, 2023, 01:49 PM
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Re: Gamera - Design

A little more reduction for you.
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PLASMA FLAME SPECIAL ATTACK
Range 5. Attack 5. Heat.
Any figures adjacent to the targeted figure other than Gamera are also affected by this special attackability. If a figure takes 1+ wounds from this special attackability, roll 1 Heat damage die against that figure for each wound taken. Figures with the Lava Resistant ability are not affected by this special attack.

HUGE SHELL WITHDRAWAL
Once per round, after Gamera is attacked or chosen for an attack or ability, you may reveal an "X" Order Marker X on this card to ignore all wounds for the remainder of this turn.
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PLASMA FLAME SPECIAL ATTACK
Range 5. Attack 5. Heat.
Any figures adjacent to the targeted figure other than Gamera are also affected by this ability. If a figure takes 1+ wounds from this ability, roll 1 Heat damage die against that figure for each wound taken.

HUGE SHELL WITHDRAWAL
Once per round, after Gamera is chosen for an attack or ability, you may reveal Order Marker X on this card to ignore all wounds for this turn.
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Old September 26th, 2023, 01:55 PM
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Re: Gamera - Design

Lava Resistance completely negates Heat SAs?
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Old September 26th, 2023, 02:15 PM
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Re: Gamera - Design

in 1.0 it did but for everything else in 2.0 we've gone with Heat Resistance ignoring 1 wound of the base attack and by extension a damage die is auto blocked.

for instance here is Cinder and her fire based attacks.

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If Cinder inflicts 1+ wounds on a non-adjacent figure with her normal attack, before placing wounds, you must choose a figure adjacent to the defender and roll 1 Heat damage die against it.

SEARING TOUCH SPECIAL ATTACK
Range 1. Attack 2. Heat
Searing Touch has +2 Attack if Cinder did not move this turn. If she inflicts 1+ wounds with this attack, roll 1 Heat Damage die against the defender for burn damage. Continue rolling for burn damage until she does not roll a skull.
So yeah you can roll that Heat Damage die but it won't matter since it would be ignored anyway.

Would I want it to be everything I love...sure...but that's just not realistic so I'm going to focus on finding things that will make me unhappy and work on fixing those.
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Re: Gamera - Design

Karat cut the line that the whole SA doesn't affect heat resistance. Which would be a change allowing it to affect them. Which like, I'm fine with. Just was confused.
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Re: Gamera - Design

this does make me wonder how this interaction works on this card...


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. If a figure takes 1+ wounds from this special attack, roll 1 damage die against that figure for each wound taken
So if a Heat Resistant figure gets 3 wounds...ignores one from being Heat Resistant...do those 2 damage die count as on instance so two skulls...ignore 1 result in 1 additions wound...or is it 2 different Heat Damage die rolls that could both get ignored from Heat Resistance. Up til now all things have been "roll a Heat Damage die" Cinder's is a series of Heat Damage Die so that one obviously gets stopped by Resistance...here I don't know

Would I want it to be everything I love...sure...but that's just not realistic so I'm going to focus on finding things that will make me unhappy and work on fixing those.
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Re: Gamera - Design

I think different people have done it differently in the past but it makes sense to have it all be 1 roll so they can't ignore the whole thing.

The dropping of the ignore part was definitely more of a suggestion which matches what we have done with other similar powers which makes it an option against figures with Heat Resistance. Though we can still make them immune if we want to.
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Re: Gamera - Design

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Karat cut the line that the whole SA doesn't affect heat resistance. Which would be a change allowing it to affect them. Which like, I'm fine with. Just was confused.
Yeah it's been a thing. See Human Torch etc.

Less flat out denial and just less effective. It's still denial for single damage die essentially.

I just theme it as sure this guy only shoots fireballs and that guy is made of lava...but Fireball guy would find a way to do something such as bounce a fireball off something else so that thing hits him or something and not just say "oh well, guess I'll just go home"

Would I want it to be everything I love...sure...but that's just not realistic so I'm going to focus on finding things that will make me unhappy and work on fixing those.
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Re: Gamera - Design

Sweet. Really need to try this guy out some time.

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Re: Gamera - Design

Love this guy. Make sure to add something about his base size/shape in the rules/resources section. It was a odd shape if I remember right. Maybe a picture in a spoiler?
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Updated. Added the base clarification from the old thread too.
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