The Book of Titan

[LordVenoc]

C3G STANDARD PLAYTEST FEEDBACK FORM
NAME OF THE TEST UNIT Titan
Army Test
Map: Conflict Chernobyl
Units: Titan, Duploids, Multiplex, Clock King, Bodyguard x3, Killer Moth (700) vs TMNT (700)
Unit Summary
Damage: 11 damage done.
Abilities: Activated ally 5 times. Titan skin negated LEA once. Wasn’t attacked with all focus on Duploids.

Spoiler Alert!

General Flow:
R1: Uneventful.
R2: Criminals first, but Turtle Power is a bit of a dud, as Turtles get distracted by Moth, and can’t seem to do much to him. Moth eventually takes 2 hits, and 1 Duploid is killed for now. Titan and the Duploids take out Leo.
R3: Clock King can’t save the initiative, so Turtles go first. Donnie chucks the Moth away. Titan puts on some hurt, but not a ton. Mikey accidentally respawns a Duploid.
R4: Clock King gives criminals the initiative, bringing Moth back out of the water. Titan kills Donnie and the Duploids kill Raph. Titan kills Mikey.
General thoughts: Quite the stomping here. Was thinking that pairing Titan with a Criminal ally who feels more obnoxious than he feels strong could provide quite the distraction. Add in the quick loss of turn efficiency/strength, and a shut down of autowounds and Turtles didn’t stand much of a chance. Will expand on this army for game 2.
Unit Summary:
R1 T2&T3: Moves Up.
R2 T1: Hits Leo for 3, brings up Multiplex.
R2 T2: Tanks a LEA to go after Leo, but only rolls 1 skull.
R2 T3: Hits Leo for 1, activates Multiplex.
R3 T1: Bodyguards move. Hits Raph for 1. Activates Multiplex
R3 T2: Puts 2 on Donnie.
R3 T3: Whiffs his attack.
R4 T1: Kills Donnie (1).
R4 T3: Kills Mikey (3).

Who won and how many wounds did they have? Criminals win. 2 wounds on Killer Moth, 1 dead Duploid, all others unwounded.

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Army Test
Map: Conflict Chernobyl
Units: Titan, Duploids, Multiplex, Clock King, Killer Moth, Venom (Mac Gargan) (900) vs Star-Lord, Gamora II, Drax II (900)
Unit Summary
Damage: 6 damage dealt.
Abilities: Activates allies 3 times. Ignored 5 wounds total, never lost Titan Skin Markers.

Spoiler Alert!

General Flow:
R1: 1 Duploid is dropped at range.
R2: Venom charges back and gets 4 wounds on Star-Lord in a single attack. Venom takes wounds, but continues his wrecking ball maneuver (Drax missed LEA), taking out Star Lord and putting 2 wounds on Gamora. Titan puts 2 on Gamora, and Venom finishes the job.
R3: Drax kills Venom. Titan tanks 3 attacks from Drax (2 wounds ignored across these attacks).
R4: Titan ignores more from Drax, then he and the Duploids kill Drax.
General thoughts: Trying earlier army at a higher total. Ultimately this was mostly on Gargan, who basically wrecked Star Lord and Gamora both. The speed he can cover is real nasty, and that early strong hit just set the landslide going. In the end Titan was just way too beefy for Drax to take down.
Unit Summary:
R1 T2: Moves up.
R2 T3: Puts 2 on Gamora.
R3 T1: Fails to hurt Drax.
R3 T2: Fails to hurt Drax again.
R3 T3: Puts 2 on Drax.
R4 T1: Puts 2 on Drax, Duploids go, killing Drax.


Who won and how many wounds did they have? Criminals win. Titan, Clock King, Multiplex unwounded. Duploids all present.

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GENERAL THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT: He’s probably too nasty now. That wound ignored makes him very very tough to fight, especially if you’re lacking autowounds. And he can easily bring in partners that can focus down those before he gets to the fray.

[Lord Pyre]

Thanks! I’m curious how the ignored wound really helps, as that’s essentially what he had before. What makes it so much better now? He really only was going to take a single wound 5 times in that last game?

[LordVenoc]

Basically because you have to deal 2 wounds to him at once to even begin to start bringing him down. Unless I completely misread, he's immune to the majority of autowounds right now, so you have to slug it out and land at least 2 wounds on a guy rolling 6 defense to start bringing him down.

[Lord Pyre]

Originally Posted by LordVenoc

Basically because you have to deal 2 wounds to him at once to even begin to start bringing him down. Unless I completely misread, he's immune to the majority of autowounds right now, so you have to slug it out and land at least 2 wounds on a guy rolling 6 defense to start bringing him down.

Must have been my luck, but he was pulverized in my games. That 2 wound threshold wouldn’t have mattered for me. And once his defense starts dropping he was useless. So maybe we are good then.

[MrNobody]

I mean...even if he just had 3 defense and Resilience, his survivability would still be comparable to Venom II’s (1 more defense, but 1 less life), so not surprising he feels a bit tough right now.

[IAmBatman]

You felt 240 was low for him anyway, right? So could just jack his price up.

[Lord Pyre]

Yeah I don’t mind him going up to 260 or so. Under 300 is ideal.

[Lord Pyre]

Updated again. Removed the fists since it was powerful but doesn't actually help Criminal Ambition. Separated Rock On out again, but that's easy enough to merge with Titan Skin if we prefer that. Doesn't affect testing. We're good for another test, maybe the last one finally.

[IAmBatman]

[Arkham]

C3G STANDARD PLAYTEST FEEDBACK FORM

NAME OF THE TEST UNIT Titan

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Army Test 1
Map: Conflict Chernobyl
Units:
Titan(260), Parasite(240), Black Tarantula(300) (800)
vs.
Luke Cage(190), Iron Fist(260), Moon Knight(150), Daredevil II(200) (800)

Spoiler Alert!

Attack Damage:
1 wound on Luke Cage. (+3 from markers)
1 wound on Luke Cage. (+3 from markers)
2 wounds on Iron Fist. (+3 from markers)
1 wound on Fist. (+3 from markers)
4 wounds(3 are excess) on Iron Fist, kills him. (+3 from markers)
1 wound on Daredevil. (+3 from markers)
1 wound on Daredevil, kills him. (+3 from markers)
3 wounds on Moon Knight, kills him. (+3 from markers)

Titan Skin:


Rock On:


Criminal Ambition:
Tarantula puts a wound on Cage, then heals.
Tarantula kills Cage, then heals.
Parasite puts 2 wounds on Iron Fist.
Parasite puts a wound on Daredevil and heals with PLD.
Parasite puts a wound on Daredevil and heals with PLD, then would put a wound on him with an attack but triggers GTD.
Parasite puts a wound on Moon Knight and heals with PLD, then attacks him for 1 wound.

Notes:
R1: Cage puts 2 wounds on Tarantula.

R3: Fist heals. Daredevil puts 2 wounds on Parasite.

R4: Daredevil puts 2 wounds on Parasite.


Parasite with 1/5 wounds(4 life, healed 3). Black Tarantula unwounded(healed 2), and Titan unwounded.

Fighters pretty much felt like they couldn't break through the entire game. Any attacks on Titan felt futile, so they started targeting Black Tarantula and then ultimately Parasite. However, most wounds done to the latter 2, were ultimately healed away as they took turns with Criminal Ambition.

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Army Test 2
Map: Conflict Chernobyl
Units:
Titan(280), Parasite(240), Black Tarantula(300) (820)
vs.
Luke Cage(190), Iron Fist(260), Spider-Man(250), Firestar(120) (820)

Spoiler Alert!

Attack Damage:
1 wound on Luke Cage. (+3 from markers)
1 wound on Luke Cage. (+1 from marker)
1 wound on Luke Cage. (+1 from marker)
3 wounds on Iron Fist, kills him. (+2 from markers)
1 wound on Luke Cage, kills him. (+2 from markers)

Titan Skin:
Ignores 1 wound, but still takes a wound, losing a marker.
Ignores 1 wound.
Ignores 1 wound, but still takes a wound, losing a marker.
Ignores 1 wound.
Ignores 1 wound, but still takes a wound, losing a marker.
Ignores 1 wound.
Ignores 1 wound from LEA.
Ignores 1 wound.

Rock On:
R3: Gains marker back.
R4: Gains marker back.
R5: Gains marker back.

Criminal Ambition:
Takes a turn with Parasite.
Black Tarantula heals Titan, puts 2 wounds on Fist, then heals.
Black Tarantula avoids LEA, puts 1 wound on Cage and Iron Fist with his SA, then heals.
Black Tarantula puts a wound on Cage then heals.
Black Tarantula puts a wound on Spider-Man then heals.

Notes:
R1: Spidey pulls Parasite and puts 2 wounds on him. Cage then puts a wound on Parasite.

R2: Cage puts a wound on Parasite. Fist kills Parasite, then heals 1 wound off Cage. Spidey pulls and puts a wound on Titan.

R3: Fist puts a wound on Titan. Spidey pulls Tarantula and puts a wound on him. Cage puts a wound on Titan. Fist puts 3 wounds on Tarantula, then heals.

R4: Spidey pulls Titan. Cage puts 3 wounds on Tarantula. Spidey pulls Tarantula.

R5: Spidey pulls Titan. Spidey pulls Tarantula and kills him. Firestar rolls an 8 skull Microwave Beam SA, killing Titan.

Spider-Man with 1/5 wounds(4 life), and Firestar unwounded.

Brutal back and forth match. The Fighters managed to swarm Parasite early thanks to Spider-Man pulling him to height disadvantage engaged with 3 of them. Titan and Tarantula then fought back and killed Fist and Cage. Spider-Man was tricky to put down however, and avoided multiple attacks as he and Firestar took down Tarantula then Titan.

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Army Test 3
Map: Conflict Chernobyl
Units:
Titan(285), Parasite(240), Black Tarantula(300), Poison Ivy II(175) (1000)
vs.
Fantastic Four (1000)

Spoiler Alert!

Attack Damage:
3 wounds on Thing. (+3 from markers)

Titan Skin:
Ignores 1 wound, but still takes 3 wounds, losing a marker.
Ignores 1 wound, but still takes 3 wounds, losing a marker.

Rock On:


Criminal Ambition:
Ivy uses PA to put a wound on Fantastic and Human Torch, then 1 additional wound on Fantastic with TL.

Notes:
R1: Ivy uses PA to put a wound on Fantastic, Torch, Invisible Woman, and Thing.

R2: Thing puts 2 wounds on Tarantula. Fantastic puts 2 wounds on Tarantula. Thing avoids LEA, then puts 3 wounds on Titan. Thing kills Titan. Fantastic puts a wound on Ivy.

R3: Ivy uses PA to put a wound on Thing, then TL to put a wound on Fantastic. Thing uses a full Clobberin' Time to kill Ivy and Tarantula. Torch takes 1 wound from LEA, puts 2 wounds on Parasite with Fo4, then attacks him for 1 wound. Torch takes a wound from LEA, then uses Fo4 to kill Parasite.


Mr. Fantastic with 4/5 wounds(1 life), Thing with 5/6 wounds(1 life), Human Torch with 4/5 wounds(1 life), and Invisible Woman with 1/5 wounds(4 life).

Fantastic Four made it tough for Titan and his army to get ideal placement, as Fantastic locked them down at height disadvantage. Titan and Ivy managed to still get in some decent wounds, but ultimately it was not enough as the Fantastic Four just barely hung in there, with all the offense of the team remaining at just 1 life.

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THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT'S COST, BALANCE, & DRAFTABILITY:
280-290 feels reasonable. I still think he's gonna be an uphill battle for anybody with 5 attack or lower, unless luck comes through for his enemy. Fun design and will easily be the most sturdy/reliable Criminal/Crime Lord leader. Something to think about, as I'd easily pay the additional points for him over Hush, for example.

[Lord Pyre]

Looks good! I think he’s fine at a higher cost. He’s not infallible, even if tough.

I propose we move to final editing at 280

[tcglkn]

Yea