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The Book of Beast Boy (Dolphin)

The Book of Beast Boy

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The figure used for this unit is a Heroclix figure from the Batman set.
Its model number and name are #005 / Beast Boy.

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Character Bio - Beast Boy has the ability to morph into any animal that he has seen himself or has seen in an illustration [...] These transformations take only a second and Beast Boy has demonstrated that he is capable of rapidly changing his form with little or no effort expended. [One such form is that of a dolphin]. The bottlenose dolphin (Tursiops truncatus) inhabits warm and temperate seas worldwide, being found everywhere except for the Arctic and Antarctic Circle regions. [...] Bottlenose dolphins have the second largest encephalization levels of any mammal on Earth (humans have the largest), sharing close ratios with those of humans and other great apes, which more than likely contributes to their incredibly high intelligence and emotional intelligence.” (Wikipedia.org, 2018).
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Re: The Book of Beast Boy (Dolphin) (Design Phase)

NAME = BEAST BOY
SECRET IDENTITY = GAR LOGAN

SPECIES = DOLPHIN
UNIQUENESS = UNIQUE HERO
CLASS = TITAN
PERSONALITY = PLAYFUL

SIZE/HEIGHT = MEDIUM 3
LIFE = 1

MOVE = 6
RANGE = 1
ATTACK = 1
DEFENSE = 1

POINTS = 30


MARINE LIFE 2
This Beast Boy must stop his movement when entering a land space, and does not stop his movement when entering a water space. Add 2 dice to this Beast Boy's attack and defense while he is on a water space.

SWIMMING PARTNER
Friendly figures do not stop their movement when entering a water space within 1 space of this Beast Boy.

ECHOLOCATION
Once per player turn, if this Beast Boy is on a water space when an opponent's figure ends its movement within 3 spaces of this Beast Boy, you may immediately move this Beast Boy or any friendly figure within 3 spaces of this Beast Boy up to 3 spaces. Figures moved this way will not take leaving engagement attacks.

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Re: The Book of Beast Boy (Dolphin) (Design Phase)

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NAME = BEAST BOY
SECRET IDENTITY = GAR LOGAN

SPECIES = DOLPHIN
UNIQUENESS = UNIQUE HERO
CLASS = TITAN
PERSONALITY = WILD

SIZE/HEIGHT = SMALL 2

LIFE = 1

MOVE = 6
RANGE = 1
ATTACK = 1
DEFENSE = 1

POINTS = 15


WATERLOGGED
If Beast Boy enters a land space, he must immediately end his movement. Beast Boy does not stop his movement when entering a water space. Add 2 dice to Beast Boy's attack and defense while he is on a water space.

AQUATIC LIFT
Friendly figures do not have to stop their movement when entering water spaces within 1 space of Beast Boy.


ECHOLOCATION

Once per turn, if this Beast Boy is on a water space, when an opponent's figure ends its movement on a space within 3 spaces of Beast Boy, you may move Beast Boy or any friendly figure within 3 spaces of Beast Boy up to 3 spaces.
How about this? Changes:


Water Strength dropped to +2 from +3. With an additional power, the higher stats aren't needed. He's just a dolphin anyways.


Water Strength combined into Waterlogged.


Echolocation added from LO, except I changed the requirement of the opponent being on a water space to Beast Boy being on a water space.

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Re: The Book of Beast Boy (Dolphin) (Design Phase)

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NAME = BEAST BOY
SECRET IDENTITY = GAR LOGAN

SPECIES = DOLPHIN
UNIQUENESS = UNIQUE HERO
CLASS = TITAN
PERSONALITY = WILD

SIZE/HEIGHT = SMALL 2

LIFE = 1

MOVE = 6
RANGE = 1
ATTACK = 1
DEFENSE = 1

POINTS = 15


WATERLOGGED
If Beast Boy enters a land space, he must immediately end his movement. Beast Boy does not stop his movement when entering a water space. Add 2 dice to Beast Boy's attack and defense while he is on a water space.

AQUATIC LIFT
Friendly figures do not have to stop their movement when entering water spaces within 1 space of Beast Boy.


ECHOLOCATION

Once per turn, if Beast Boy is on a water space, when an opponent's figure enters a space within 3 spaces of Beast Boy, you may move Beast Boy or any friendly figure within 3 spaces of Beast Boy up to 3 spaces.
How about this? Changes:


Water Strength dropped to +2 from +3. With an additional power, the higher stats aren't needed. He's just a dolphin anyways.


Water Strength combined into Waterlogged.


Echolocation added from LO, except I changed the requirement of the opponent being on a water space to Beast Boy being on a water space.
When does Echolocation trigger. For instance, if a figure with slither enters a water space but has move points left

Does BB get to move now, after the figure finishes it's move, or after the figure finishes it's turn. Also if the same figure moves onto a second water space during the same move, does the bonus trigger again. Current wording doesn't tell me what your intent is.

Second, I think tt should also say THIS Beast Boy I believe. Otherwise if this card is in your army it lets all Beast Boy's on a water space trigger this.

Would I want it to be everything I love...sure...but that's just not realistic so I'm going to focus on finding things that will make me unhappy and work on fixing those.
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Re: The Book of Beast Boy (Dolphin) (Design Phase)

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NAME = BEAST BOY
SECRET IDENTITY = GAR LOGAN

SPECIES = DOLPHIN
UNIQUENESS = UNIQUE HERO
CLASS = TITAN
PERSONALITY = WILD

SIZE/HEIGHT = SMALL 2

LIFE = 1

MOVE = 6
RANGE = 1
ATTACK = 1
DEFENSE = 1

POINTS = 30


MARINE LIFE 2
If this Beast Boy enters a land space, he must immediately end his movement. This Beast Boy does not stop his movement when entering a water space. Add 2 dice to this Beast Boy's attack and defense while he is on a water space.

SWIMMING PARTNER
Friendly figures do not have to stop their movement when entering water spaces within 1 space of this Beast Boy.

ECHOLOCATION
Once per turn, if this Beast Boy is on a water space, when an opponent's figure ends its movement on a space within 3 spaces of this Beast Boy, you may move this Beast Boy or any friendly figure within 3 spaces of this Beast Boy up to 3 spaces.
I propose a move to Initial Playtesting!

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NAME = BEAST BOY
SECRET IDENTITY = GAR LOGAN

SPECIES = DOLPHIN
UNIQUENESS = UNIQUE HERO
CLASS = TITAN
PERSONALITY = WILD

SIZE/HEIGHT = SMALL 2

LIFE = 1

MOVE = 6
RANGE = 1
ATTACK = 1
DEFENSE = 1

POINTS = 30


MARINE LIFE 2
If this Beast Boy enters a land space, he must immediately end his movement. This Beast Boy does not stop his movement when entering a water space. Add 2 dice to this Beast Boy's attack and defense while he is on a water space.

SWIMMING PARTNER
Friendly figures do not have to stop their movement when entering water spaces within 1 space of this Beast Boy.

ECHOLOCATION
Once per turn, if this Beast Boy is on a water space, when an opponent's figure ends its movement on a space within 3 spaces of this Beast Boy, you may move this Beast Boy or any friendly figure within 3 spaces of this Beast Boy up to 3 spaces.
I propose a move to Initial Playtesting!

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Re: The Book of Beast Boy (Dolphin) (Design Phase)

Just a friendly reminder that anyone and everyone is encouraged to participate in public designs! There are no requirements or qualifications to post. All opinions are useful!

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Re: The Book of Beast Boy (Dolphin) (Design Phase)

My concern is this guy is going to undraftable on non-water heavy maps and undercosted on water heavy maps. And even on the latter, I’m not sure I’m taking him over the flying dino.

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My concern is this guy is going to undraftable on non-water heavy maps and undercosted on water heavy maps. And even on the latter, I’m not sure I’m taking him over the flying dino.
Ummm...he's a dolphin. He shouldn't be drafted in a map without water. But I agree he needs something to make him a useful Niche figure. I do see him having more value than the Pterasaur BB on a map with a 3 space water crossing since he'd function as a bridge for the whole army and not just the figure he's carrying.

But the reality is that he's one of several beast forms available and they can't all be useful every time.

Would I want it to be everything I love...sure...but that's just not realistic so I'm going to focus on finding things that will make me unhappy and work on fixing those.
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Re: The Book of Beast Boy (Dolphin) (Design Phase)

To address that, I think Water Strength should be lowered to 1 so there's not such a dramatic difference in power for those two types of maps.

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Re: The Book of Beast Boy (Dolphin) (Design Phase)

Not sure if there's any synergy with Water Strength, but maybe we should combine it and Waterlogged into "Water Dweller" or something? Just to make it more reusable, I know there's been talk of sharks and stuff that should work the same.
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