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The Book of Carrion

The Book of Carrion

C3G MARVEL WAVE 34
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The figure used for this unit is a Heroclix figure from the Amazing Spider-Man set.
Its model number and name are #038 / Carrion.

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Character Bio - Carrion is a decayed clone of Professor Miles Warren, also known as the Jackal. Warren had created the clone and left it in a capsule to mature to full development; however Warren then (seemingly) died and the clone was left developing in the capsule with artificially accelerated age. Something went wrong and the clone's body became like a living corpse. Armed with a degenerative touch and a a chemical substance known as "Red Death", Carrion is out to bring Spider-Man to justice as he blames him for the deaths of Miles and Gwen Stacy.
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Re: The Book of Carrion (Design Phase)

NAME = CARRION

SPECIES = CLONE
UNIQUENESS = UNIQUE HERO
CLASS = STALKER
PERSONALITY = INSANE

SIZE/HEIGHT = MEDIUM 5

LIFE = 4

MOVE = 5
RANGE = 1
ATTACK = 3
DEFENSE = 4

POINTS = 150

LEVITATION
Carrion is considered to have height advantage over any figure without the Flying or Levitation special power whose base is no more than 2 levels above his base. Carrion does not take falling damage and may ignore all effects from terrain tiles he moves onto or occupies.

DENSITY CONTROL
Carrion can move through all figures, Fortress Walls, and obstacles, and is never attacked when leaving an engagement. Carrion cannot be targeted by opponents' non-adjacent figures for any attacks or special powers that require clear sight. Carrion may not be moved by any special power on an opponent's Army Card.

DEGENERATIVE TOUCH
After attacking with Carrion's normal attack, roll one unblockable attack die against the defending figure for each wound it received from that attack. Androids, Constructs, and destructible objects are not affected by Degenerative Touch.

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Old March 28th, 2020, 08:59 PM
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Re: The Book of Carrion (Design Phase)

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Re: The Book of Carrion (Design Phase)

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LEVITATION
Carrion is considered to have height advantage over any figure without the Aerial Advantage, Flying, or Levitation special power whose base is no more than 2 levels above his base. Carrion does not take falling damage and may ignore all effects from terrain tiles he moves onto or occupies.

DENSITY CONTROL
Carrion can move through all figures and obstacles such as ruins, and is never attacked when leaving an engagement. Carrion cannot be targeted by opponents' non-adjacent figures for any attacks or special powers that require clear sight. Carrion may not be moved by any special power on an opponent's Army Card.

DEGENERATIVE TOUCH
If a figure receives 1 or more wounds from Carrion's normal attack, roll a combat die for each wound that figure received this turn. For each skull you roll, that figure receives 1 additional wound. Androids, Constructs, and Destructible Objects are not affected by Degenerative Touch.
I think this recently came up in... some other thread, but there's really no reason for Aerial Advantage to be listed in Levitation. I know it's a reuse from Dhalsim, but it's not on a third card yet, so if we wanted to change it, no time like the present.

There is probably an argument for listing Stealth Flying if we wanted full Hasbro compatibility, but... I feel like we could just rule that Hasbro!Surfer is considered to have Flying instead of worrying about separate Stealth Flying call-outs in places like this? (Or just drop support for the Hasbro cards altogether and finally cast them into the sea)

You could phrase Degenerative Touch more concisely, something like:

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After attacking with Carrion's normal attack, roll one unblockable attack die against the defending figure for each wound it received from the attack. Androids, Constructs, and destructible objects are not affected by Degenerative Touch.
But the current version isn't wrong or unclear, so not a hard ask. The only thing I see that really should change is that "destructible object" shouldn't be capitalized on its own, outside the name of a specific DO. (We're not always great at enforcing this, but that's the standard)
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LEVITATION
Carrion is considered to have height advantage over any figure without the Aerial Advantage, Flying, or Levitation special power whose base is no more than 2 levels above his base. Carrion does not take falling damage and may ignore all effects from terrain tiles he moves onto or occupies.

DENSITY CONTROL
Carrion can move through all figures and obstacles such as ruins, and is never attacked when leaving an engagement. Carrion cannot be targeted by opponents' non-adjacent figures for any attacks or special powers that require clear sight. Carrion may not be moved by any special power on an opponent's Army Card.

DEGENERATIVE TOUCH
If a figure receives 1 or more wounds from Carrion's normal attack, roll a combat die for each wound that figure received this turn. For each skull you roll, that figure receives 1 additional wound. Androids, Constructs, and Destructible Objects are not affected by Degenerative Touch.
I think this recently came up in... some other thread, but there's really no reason for Aerial Advantage to be listed in Levitation. I know it's a reuse from Dhalsim, but it's not on a third card yet, so if we wanted to change it, no time like the present.

There is probably an argument for listing Stealth Flying if we wanted full Hasbro compatibility, but... I feel like we could just rule that Hasbro!Surfer is considered to have Flying instead of worrying about separate Stealth Flying call-outs in places like this? (Or just drop support for the Hasbro cards altogether and finally cast them into the sea)
I thought the reason for calling out Aerial Advantage was because they do not themselves have flying and therefore the figure with AA would gain height advantage when it should be even ground?

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You could phrase Degenerative Touch more concisely, something like:

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After attacking with Carrion's normal attack, roll one unblockable attack die against the defending figure for each wound it received from theat attack. Androids, Constructs, and destructible objects are not affected by Degenerative Touch.
But the current version isn't wrong or unclear, so not a hard ask. The only thing I see that really should change is that "destructible object" shouldn't be capitalized on its own, outside the name of a specific DO. (We're not always great at enforcing this, but that's the standard)
I'm cool with the wording change minus one little quibble. I'll wait to update till we settle the Levitation bit so I can just update once.
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DEGENERATIVE TOUCH
After attacking with Carrion's normal attack, roll one unblockable attack die against the defending figure for each wound it received from theat attack. Androids, Constructs, and destructible objects are not affected by Degenerative Touch.
Is this meant to say "from that attack", "from the attack", or "from this attack"?

Originally it said "this turn"

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Big fan of this one. Looks good to me.
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Re: The Book of Carrion (Design Phase)

The only dangling question is, I believe, the class thing - like, whether it's appropriate to have a more general purpose version be a Scientist.

Basic stuff though looks good!
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Re: The Book of Carrion (Design Phase)

I don’t know the character well, but I’m a fan of any design with a Kansas pun in the comic art.

All good reuses. Just depends if we want to use a strict dust of death or would rather not use an auto kill, since many of us aren’t huge fans. We could easily tweak it to just do wounds.
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Re: The Book of Carrion (Design Phase)

Yeah, I think something like Antagonist would suit him a little better. Or you could go for Telepath. He's not a super strong telepath, but he can do it a bit and there's nothing pressing he needs for class.

If we want to do something besides Dust of Death (like I briefly touched on in the LCW), might be cool to do something with his "death touch"; he can disintegrate organic matter by touching it. Maybe a riff on what Judge Mortis does?

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SOMETHING SOMETHING DEATH TOUCH SPECIAL ATTACK
Range 1. Attack 3.
When Carrion attacks with this special attack and at least one skull is rolled, the defending figure immediately receives one unblockable wound before defense dice are rolled. Carrion cannot attack an Android, Construct, or destructible object with this special attack.
Something we had in mind for Carnage (II) (assuming I can con Soundwarp into running Carnage (II)) was him granting a bunch of attack-only activations, so implementing Carrion's mojo as an SA or a modifier to his normal attack would help him out in a Max Carnage build.
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Re: The Book of Carrion (Design Phase)

I felt like I was forgetting a change we made. Definitely forgot to update my personal record. Was definitely meant to be a Telepath.

I originally gave him this to represent his touch.
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DEGENERATIVE TOUCH
If a figure receives 1 or more wounds from Carrion's normal attack, roll a combat die for each wound that figure received this turn. For each skull you roll, that figure receives 1 additional wound. Androids and Constructs are not affected by Degenerative Touch.
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Re: The Book of Carrion (Design Phase)

That sounds like the type of thing you have to live at least 10 miles away from a school for ....

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