The Book of Beast Man

[Lazy Orang]

I'd be in favour of opening up Wild. Gives more options down the line, Bud and Lou fit and it's not as though the Animated Vines will work well with him anyway - they're basically immobile and they have an attack of 1.

[Dysole]

Originally Posted by Yodaking

I think things are getting mixed up somewhere. When you fail to deal any wounds with an attack, the figure doesn't move anywhere, then you must roll the unblockable against any figures adj. to that figure, including for your own figure that just missed the attack. It's a power that can be both a plus and a negative depending on how the dice treat you.

Okay I see that now upon a couple more rereads of the power. Upon further reflection, you should probably add in an "opponent's small or medium" just to prevent shenanigans similar to what was pulled with Red Skull and Raven (Skull attacked dealing one wound and then master manipulated the crap out of things). I can't immediately think of anything that can abuse this but it seems like a harmless bit of future proofing unless you want Clumsy Smash to be something where you can attack your own dudes.

~Dysole, still intrigued to see Clumsy Smash play with Magma

[IAmBatman]

@quozl I'm cool with that suggested change to Clumsy Smash if you are. Rocksteady is my precedent, so I don't want to change wording here without wording there changed as well.

johnny's airtight Masters of the Universe logic has convinced me to include Wild again. I'll make that edit now.

[IAmBatman]

Wording tweaks on Clumsy Smash shouldn't prevent testing here, though, so I propose we move to Initial Testing!

[Karat]

Yea. I just put up a proposal to alter the Werewolf class so that they can be tested with him if it is passed.

[johnny139]

Yea

[quozl]

I liked being able to attack my own dudes with Clumsy Smash. It's kind of like playing golf but if it seems too powerful, we can add in "opponent's".

[Dysole]

Originally Posted by quozl

I liked being able to attack my own dudes with Clumsy Smash. It's kind of like playing golf but if it seems too powerful, we can add in "opponent's".

See if that's the intention, it's fine to keep that. I'm trying to think of exactly what conditions would need to arise for a figure to be broken with this. There's none that I can think of currently, so it'd be future proofing. That said it'd have to be a pretty specific figure (something that was easy to put a number of wounds on, but also able to then ignore/remove those wounds after getting bowled into the enemy)

~Dysole, balancing aspects of the designs

[IAmBatman]

This high level competitive stuff is often over my head, so I'll let y'all hash it out and see what you agree on. I doubt any exploits would come up in my initial testing anyway (I'm just not quite that clever with that type of thing).

[Tornado]

Switched LL T-Rex back to Wild.

I am trying to figure out how to make the MotU T-Rex work with Beast Man. If it has Carry like people suggested, it will not gel with the bonding here, as the T-Rex will go after Beast Man.

[IAmBatman]

Originally Posted by Tornado

Switched LL T-Rex back to Wild.

I am trying to figure out how to make the MotU T-Rex work with Beast Man. If it has Carry like people suggested, it will not gel with the bonding here, as the T-Rex will go after Beast Man.

Yeah, but it doesn't have to carry Beast Man to be effective. It can carry a different bonding partner for him so he has two options close by.

[Tornado]

Yeah, but it was not going to be open Carry. I guess it could carry in Skeletor though.