Project Pokemon Design Thread: VENUSAUR!

[mac122]

From Estivara's card:
Cloud of Darkness
After taking a turn with Estivara, you may roll the 20-sided die. If you roll a 16 or higher, while she remains on that space, Estivara has no visible hit zone until the next time you reveal an order marker.

Edit:
My bad. It would be better if I could read.

[Kroz]

Originally Posted by mac122

The problem I see with this is that you don't defend on your turn and you don't move on your opponent's turn. So, Squirtle would always have the bonus.
Even if you look at your turn #X and your opponent's turn #X as a single turn, if they go first, Squirtle would get the bonus and still be able to move on that turn. IMO, if you go by turns, it needs to be if Squirtle didn't move on the previous turn.

This is how I suggested it and I believe it's the best way of doing it. As of right now. Fiddlerjones' version isn't so bad either.

[mac122]

My bad, I misread something or my brain is fried on a Friday afternoon. The current wording is similar to Estivara's.

[wulfhunter667]

Originally Posted by fiddlerjones

Withdraw
Instead of moving, add 1 to this Squirtle's defense until you reveal another order marker on this Squirtle.

Why not just use a variation of official wording?
Withdraw
After taking a turn with this Squirtle, you may roll the 20-sided die. If you roll a 16 or higher, while it remains on that space, this Squirtle may roll one additional defense die until the next time you reveal an order marker.
That should just about cover everything. Even if Squirtle doesn't get an order marker, he would get the bonus, provided he makes the roll, until the next time he was activated.

[Chardar]

Take out the roll and it should work. Withdraw is constant, not D20. It would barely even be worth making the roll.

[wulfhunter667]

Originally Posted by wulfhunter667

Withdraw
After taking a turn with this Squirtle, it may roll one additional defense die until the next time you reveal an order marker.

More like this then?

[Chardar]

Originally Posted by wulfhunter667

More like this then?

I added in the movement restriction. I think we're close.

[fiddlerjones]

Originally Posted by fiddlerjones

Here's the latest version:


Squirtle


Stat Box Information

Life 3
Move 5
Range 1
Attack 2
Defense 4
Points 50-60 (Looking to keep it in Charmander's range)

Sidebar Information
Pokemon
Uncommon Hero
Tiny Turtle
Loyal

Small 3

Special Abilities/Attacks

Water Gun Special Attack
<Water Type> Attack 3, Range 6.
If this Squirtle is on a water or swamp water space, you may roll 2
additional attack dice for this Squirtle's Water Gun Special Attack.

Withdraw
After taking a turn with this Squirtle, if it did not move, it rolls an additional defense die until the next time you reveal an order marker on it.

Aquatic
Squirtle does not have to stop its movement when entering water spaces.

Updated, using the "loyal" suggestion and Chardar's edited wording, with one minor change. I don't want to overcomplicate the power by adding a d20 roll.

[Chardar]

Change it to "he may roll one additional defense die" that keeps it in line with Estivara.

[Kaiyu]

Originally Posted by fiddlerjones

Withdraw
After taking a turn with this Squirtle, if it did not move it rolls an additional defense die it adds 1 die to its defense until the next time you reveal an order marker on it.

There's a good reason for this, I don't want to get too into detail, you'll just have to trust me.

Also, how about this?

Withdraw
If this Squirtle ends its turn on the same space it occupied at the start of its turn, it receives 1 additional die to its defense until the next time you reveal an order marker on this Squirtle.

or

Withdraw
If this Squirtle moves 0 spaces during its turn, it receives 1 additional die to its defense until the next time you reveal an order marker on this Squirtle.

I choose these wordings because there isn't really such a thing as not moving, only moving zero spaces.

[Chardar]

I don't think "it recieves one additional die to its defense" is official wording.

I still think Wulf and I had it with. "After taking a turn with this Squirtle, if this Squirtle did not move, it may roll one additional defense die until the next time you reveal an order marker."

[Kroz]

Originally Posted by Chardar

I don't think "it recieves one additional die to its defense" is official wording.

I still think Wulf and I had it with. "After taking a turn with this Squirtle, if this Squirtle did not move, it may roll one additional defense die until the next time you reveal an order marker."

Isn't that the same wording as WTF? If so then you're right Chardar.