Public Design Workshop

[AlexH12]

Originally Posted by Matt Helm

As for the oil squirt, remembering if it’s the next time and only the next time I rolled combat dice could get tough for us old folks. Since it’s temporary, good move without a marker but have you considered leaving it in effect for the entire round? Of course the success roll can be higher at like 16. Most likely, the targeted figure may only roll combat dice once more in the round anyway, and may not roll at all of this happens on OM 3 or maybe even on OM 2.

I think the effect would last until the unit's next combat roll, regardless if a new round has started.

[Ronin]

Interesting. Not familiar with the 1602 version of Ock in particular, but here's my thoughts.

It feels a little redundant to me to have two different 'grab a figure and move em' powers. I'm also not so sure he needs +2 attack from Grip of the Octopus... he'll often be slinging 6 attack dice, since he has such an easy time getting height, and 8 dice is usually reserved for real heavy-hitters. (Plus he has a really strong ability to cut through defense in Oil Spew)

That said, the ability to pull a little enemy figure movement twice during his turn does give him an interesting hook... I do like that about the design.

Oil Spew is a little on the strong side... -4 from Attack and Defense is more punishing, and we've never subtracted that many dice for a power like this.

Really solid first write-up overall! It could use a little streamlining and number-crunching, but it's a fun direction.

[Matt Helm]

Originally Posted by AlexH12

It sounds fitting for those powers. I'll try and figure out how to word it some time later.

Engaged figures moved by Grip Of The Octopus will not take leaving engagement attacks.

Something like that always makes it clear.

And because I rudely forgot to say it, welcome to custom designing.

[IAmBatman]

Originally Posted by Matt Helm

And because I rudely forgot to say it, welcome to custom designing.

[AlexH12]

NAME = THE OCTOPUS
SECRET IDENTITY = VICTOR OCTAVIUS

SPECIES = MUTATE
UNIQUENESS = UNIQUE HERO
CLASS = MASTERMIND
PERSONALITY = ARROGANT

SIZE/HEIGHT = MEDIUM 6

LIFE = 5

MOVE = 5
RANGE = 2
ATTACK = 5
DEFENSE = 7

POINTS = 425


EXTENSIVE REACH
Before moving, you may choose one figure within 5 clear sight spaces of The Octopus. Place the chosen figure on any empty space within one space of its current location. Units targeted by extensive reach do not take leaving engagement attacks.

GRIP OF THE OCTOPUS
Once per round, after moving, before attacking, you may choose one figure within 2 clear sight spaces of The Octopus. Place the chosen figure on any empty space to The Octopus. If The Octopus attacks the chosen figure this turn, you may add 2 to The Octopus' attack. Units targeted by Grip of the Octopus do not take leaving engagement attacks.

OIL SPEW 11
After moving, before attacking, you may choose one figure within 3 clear sight spaces and roll the 20-sided die. If you roll 11 or higher, reduce the chosen figure's Attack and Defense Numbers by four each until after the next time combat dice are rolled for that figure.


Bio:
Victor Octavius was an Italian baron who was found ill with the plague. He was set to find a cure, so he held Henri Pym's wife captive for him to make a cure. Pym needed the blood of a "witchbreed" in order to make this cure. Norman Osborne told Pym about Peter Parker, also known as the spider. Previous attempts to cure Victor led to a mutation from an octopus. Victor grows tentacles and becomes more agressive in his needs. Pym draws blood from Peter to make this cure. When Pym finishes the serum, Victor believes that he is meant to be in this form and smashes the beaker against the ground. Victor is pent up fighting the Spider and does not notice the giant Henri Pym appearing from the sea. Pym tried to lick up the serum, not wanting it to go to waste, in doing that he made himself giant. Pym got his revenge and crushed Victor under his foot.

[Tornado]

Woah, even creepier than I imagined. Good stuff!

[MrNobody]

Okay, some more stray thoughts...

Is Mastermind the right class? I’m honestly asking because I don’t know. For context, our Masterminds tend to be guys leading major organizations (Red Skull, Ra’s al Ghul) or dudes who have some big master plan (Riddler, Hush). Does this guy fit into that kind of vibe?

I’ll echo what others have said in that having 2 “pull people closer” powers feels a bit redundant. What if (and this is just an idea, feel free to turn it down) Grip Of The Octopus was instead a power that kept people close? Something like this;

GRIP OF THE OCTOPUS
Whenever any figure adjacent to the Octopus begins to move, you may roll the 20-sided die. If you roll 16? or higher, that figure cannot move for the rest of the turn.

It’s actually also a semi-callback to Doc Ock I and his Cyber Claw ability, and it helps keep pesky Spiders from escaping him.

I’ll also echo others in saying that I think -4 is pretty high for Oil Spew. For reference, that’s enough to bring Superman down to regular human levels or to make the Flash completely incapable of Speed Dodging attacks. He basically has a 50% chance to be one of the best attackers in the game, better than Thor or Superman. What if it used a marker, and gave -1 attack, defense, and subtracted some from any D20 rolls that figure made for the rest of the round? (Because that’s a good anti-Spider measure.)

[AlexH12]

I wasn't really too sure what class he would be. I sort of based it on how controlling he is. Grip of the Octopus definitely needs some kind of change, maybe we can meet in the middle somehow. Everything you said, but within 2 spaces of The Octopus. I think oil spew should have a chart in a way for the modifier. 1-5 is -1, 6-10 is -2 and so on.

[MrNobody]

What about something like this?

The next time that figure rolls Attack or Defense dice, you may subtract a Skull or Shield from the roll for each Blank rolled.

So it’s not a perfect scale, but obviously Superman is going to be rolling a lot more blanks than your average Citizen.

[AlexH12]

I like the idea of having the random chance of smaller to larger penalties. I want to try and see if the chance of -4 can stick to the design.

[Yodaking]

Just a FYI, -4 to defense is highly unlikely to ever get passed due in part to what Nobody just outlined with completely negating the Flash. Comic art looks pretty awesome for him, if he doesn't already have a mini I hope he gets one at some point. I'd pick it up for sure.

[AlexH12]

Maybe 1-10 is -1 and 11-20 is -2?