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Re: The Book of Ornak
The 3rd edition terminology used of "leaving engagement attack" is causing a problem that "passing swipe" did not cause in the first two editions of the rules. After re-re-reading everything including the 2nd edition rules I think it is pretty clear that a leaving engagement attack (i.e. passing swipe) is not an attack as the rules and cards refer to an attack. Thus it does not take advantage of Ornak's ability.
~Aldin, waffleman He either fears his fate too much or his desserts are small That dares not put it to the touch to gain or lose it all ~James Graham |
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Re: The Book of Ornak
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Re: The Book of Ornak
I think that this guy is the best flagbearer. I was able to take out Sujoah in two turns by using Ornak to bond with Krug and Mimring. Question: On Thanos's card it says that you roll for RbD 'at the start of each of your turns after Thanos has been destroyed'. So, if I use Ornak's RFoF to take two Utgar hero turns, does that mean that I get to roll twice for RbD?
Your curiosity will be the death of you....
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I don't have Ornak, so it's never come up. |
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Here's an army I've played a few times: Ornak Grimnak Blade Gruts x2 Krug Ne-Gok-Sa Marcu 530 This is one of the many armies I've been trying for the Nebraska Skirmish coming up in a couple weeks(440range/530melee). Throw Isamu in to make it 540. The options in this army are so nice. You can easily adapt to what your opponent is doing. Its not too hard to keep the whole army moving together. Peace is a lie, there is only passion. Through passion, I gain strength. Through strength, I gain power. Through power, I gain victory. Through victory, my chains are broken. The Force shall free me. Last edited by stubobj; October 27th, 2008 at 08:37 PM. Reason: Had an army to include. |
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Re: The Book of Ornak
Actually, you get to roll for Rejected By Death for every turn. That includes each turn activation, and again for bonding turns, frenzy, etc.
From the Marvel Questions thread. |
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Re: The Book of Ornak
Venoc Vipers frenzy specifically states to "take another turn" so I agree with getting to roll for Thanos after every successful frenzy roll. But Ornaks RFoFA does not state this. "instead of taking that turn, you make a take a turn with 2 unique heroes...." I still believe that you wouldn't get to roll extra off of Ornaks RFoFA.
Peace is a lie, there is only passion. Through passion, I gain strength. Through strength, I gain power. Through power, I gain victory. Through victory, my chains are broken. The Force shall free me. |
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~Aldin, who tends to kill everything else before Thanos when possible He either fears his fate too much or his desserts are small That dares not put it to the touch to gain or lose it all ~James Graham |
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Re: The Book of Ornak
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So it doesn't seem to be the revealing of the order marker, but the the actual start of a turn. I can certainly see people rolling for it at the start of each of the two unique hero's turns, as Aldin wrote. But it is not at all clear to me that, using that logic, the same wouldn't apply to frenzy rolls... ("Another" turn is still a turn, and it has a distinct start.) -- I don't always use custom units, but when I do I use Sherman Davies Marvel customs. |
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fomox,
I am a bit unclear on your comment. If you are saying that it seems to you that Thanos should get to roll with each Frenzy activation, that is exactly correct. ~Aldin, who thinks KoW with a Champ or two is the best way to maximize Thanos' rolls He either fears his fate too much or his desserts are small That dares not put it to the touch to gain or lose it all ~James Graham |
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"If Order Marker 1 is placed on Ornak, then instead of taking that turn with Ornak, you may take a turn with up to 2 Unique Heroes you control who follow Utgar..." I don't know why but I can't help but to read into this. The way I interpret this is that you are replacing A turn, a single turn, with up to 2 figures. Its not separate turns like bonding. Its all still one turn but with up to 2 different figures. I honestly think it could've been worded differently or at least clearer if it was 2 separate turns. Again this is most likely me reading too much into whats written there. MTG has really warped the way interperet some rules and powers. Apologies for being so stubborn. Peace is a lie, there is only passion. Through passion, I gain strength. Through strength, I gain power. Through power, I gain victory. Through victory, my chains are broken. The Force shall free me. |
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Re: The Book of Ornak
stubobj,
Pre-Thanos the distinction wasn't really necessary. In this case I can only ask that you consider if there is any game mechanic which allows for one turn to have multiple movement and attack phases. If not, then to have two heroes share a turn you would need to have them move together then attack together - making them a sort of de facto squad. In other words, interpreting that sentence as anything other than two turns, one for each hero, creates a whole new concept which the rules fail to address in any way. ~Aldin, *cough* esq. He either fears his fate too much or his desserts are small That dares not put it to the touch to gain or lose it all ~James Graham |