The Book of Queen of Spades

[japes]

yea

[Tornado]

Yea

[fret_gurglo]

Queen of Spades is posted for public playtesting

[Tornado]

Make sure to update the title.

[Yodaking]

Good to see this faction continue to move forward.

[Lord Pyre]

Lookin' good! Yea

[MrNobody]

C3G STANDARD PLAYTEST FEEDBACK FORM

NAME OF THE PLAYTEST UNIT: Queen of Spades

Army Test 1
Map: Modified Grundy’s Grave
Units: Team 1 (810): Queen (200), Captain America (240), Wonder Woman II (370)
Team 2 (810): Nightwing (200), Starfire (210), Raven (190), Arsenal (190), Skrull Infiltrator x2 (20)

Pre-game thoughts: A generalist thing, hopefully using Wonder Woman to deflect/counterstrike attacks with Deceptions.

Summary of the game:

Spoiler Alert!

Round 1: T2 wins initiative
-Kori inflicts a wound on Cap
-Roy inflicts a wound on Queen
-Wonder Woman (WW) inflicts a wound on Kori

Round 2: T1 wins initiative
-Cap inflicts a wound on Raven
-WW counterstrikes Kori, inflicting 2 wounds
-Raven moves a wound from herself to Cap
-Roy inflicts a wound on Cap
-Dick targets Cap, but Cap is switched with WW, who counterstrikes Dick for a wound
-WW takes out Kori (who is revealed to be a Skrull) and inflicts a wound on Raven
-T2 had OM2 on Kori, so they lose a turn
-WW inflicts 2 wounds on Raven
-Roy ties WW down with Bolas

Round 3: T1 wins initiative
-Cap throws his shield, inflicting a wound on Raven and 2 wounds on Dick
-Raven moves a wound from herself to Cap
-Roy Bolas Cap
-Dick inflicts 2 wounds on Queen
-Roy Bolas Queen
-Roy shoots at Cap, but Queen switches Cap with Dick, who narrowly dodges the arrow

Round 4: T2 wins initiative
-Raven moves a wound from herself to Cap, taking him out
-Cap is revealed to be a Skrull
-Dick takes out Queen
-WW inflicts 2 wounds on Raven
-WW takes out Raven

Round 5: T1 wins initiative
-Roy inflicts a wound on Raven
-WW inflicts 2 wounds on Roy
-WW counterstrikes Roy, inflicting a wound
-WW takes out Roy

Round 6: T2 wins initiative
-Dick inflicts 2 wounds on WW
-WW takes out Dick
-WW takes out the remaining Skrulls


Special power usages:
Normal attack: 0 wounds inflicted/ 0 attacks
Deceptions: 2 targets switched/ 7 attempts
Razer Spades Special Attack: 0 wounds inflicted/ 3 attacks
Royal Flush: N/A

Who won? List figures remaining in the winning army (include life remaining for heroes): Wonder Woman (3/7 wounds)

Post-game thoughts: Queen had a lot of potential here, but couldn’t quite pull the trigger on her Deceptions rolls. Still a win for her team though, and she did help some with her 2 successful switches. I think she’ll still be a useful generalist piece, but I’m not sure she’s better in that role than Malekith, who is only 20 points more.

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Army Test 2
Map: Modified Grundy’s Grave
Units: Team 1 (770): Queen (200), King (210), Ace (260), Duploids (100)
Team 2 (770): Chief (165), Elasti-Girl (235), Robotman (175), Negative Man (135), Negative Spirit (40), Skrull Infiltrator x2 (20)

Pre-game thoughts: N/A

Summary of the game:

Spoiler Alert!

Round 1: T1 wins initiative
-Elasti-Girl (EG) takes out a Duploid
-Negative Spirit (NS) inflicts a wound on Queen and takes out a Duploid
-EG tries to attack Queen, but she switches with Robotman, who blocks the attack

Round 2: T2 wins initiative
-Robotman (RM) tries to attack Queen, but she switches with EG, who takes 3 wounds
-EG tries to attack Queen, but she switches with Robotman, who takes a wound
-NS takes out a Duploid
-EG tries to attack Queen, but she switches with Robotman, who falls
-RM is revealed to be a Skrull
-Ace inflicts a wound on EG
-NS inflicts a wound each on Ace and King
-EG tries to attack Queen, but she switches with a Skrull, who is destroyed
-Ace takes out EG

Round 3: T1 wins initiative
-NS inflicts a wound each on King and Queen
-Ace inflicts 2 wounds on NM
-NS inflicts a wound each on King and Ace

Round 4: T2 wins initiative
-NS inflicts a wound on King
-Queen inflicts a wound on NM with her SA
-NS inflicts a wound each on King and Queen
-Ace takes out NM
-NM is revealed to be a Skrull
-RM is rebuilt

Round 5: T2 wins initiative
-Duploids duplicate
-Chief counterstrikes Queen, killing her
-Duploids duplicate
-King inflicts 2 wounds on Chief, but gets counterstriked to death
-Duploids duplicate
-Ace takes out a Skrull

Round 6: T2 wins initiative
-RM takes out a Duploid
-Ace kills Chief, but Chief gets 1 final counterstrike wound in first
-T2 had OM2 and OM3 on Chief, so they lose 2 turns
-Ace inflicts a wound on RM

Round 7: T1 wins initiative
-Ace inflicts 2 wounds on RM
-RM inflicts a wound on Ace
-Ace takes out RM


Special power usages:
Normal attack: 0 wounds inflicted/ 0 attacks
Deceptions: 5 targets switched/ 6 attempts
Razer Spades Special Attack: 1 wounds inflicted (1 wound on Negative Man)/ 5 attacks
Royal Flush: 1 additional turns granted/ 5 attempts

Who won? List figures remaining in the winning army (include life remaining for heroes): Ace (4/6 wounds), Duploids (4 figures)

Post-game thoughts: Much better showing for Queen’s Deceptions rolls here, but the RFG’s lack of heavy firepower outside of Ace kept them from overwhelming the Doom Patrol.

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THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT'S COST, BALANCE, & DRAFTABILITY: I think she has some potential as a generalist with the Deceptions ability. Overall, her main tricks both being based on the D20 makes her feel a bit swingy. Not a bad thing at all, just makes her a bit hard to pin down cost-wise.

GENERAL THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT: Really dig the concepts here!

Here you go!

[fret_gurglo]

Thanks for the tests. That's 2 wins for her, but not overwhelming wins. No changes to happen yet.

[MrNobody]

Well I know she got a minor nerf post-initial, but she’s really looking at 4 wins to 1 loss, right?

[fret_gurglo]

Originally Posted by MrNobody

Well I know she got a minor nerf post-initial, but she’s really looking at 4 wins to 1 loss, right?

Correct. I'd like to see some more tests and if necessary her deceptions might get decreased again down to 2 spaces range. I don't want to make that change just yet.

[Ronin]

Anything we especially want to see in testing here?

[fret_gurglo]

Originally Posted by Ronin

Anything we especially want to see in testing here?

I'm mostly interested in determining if her Deceptions is too powerful. So anything that can maximize that would be good. Secondly, I am beginning to believe that the Royal Flush power might be too weak. I found it did not trigger often and easily breaks the chain. As Ace is the only figure with a decent attack, failing to take a turn with him is very detrimental.

Possible changes I might be making is decreasing the range effect of Deceptions again down to affecting friendly figures within 2 spaces from Queen.

Second change might be to increase Royal Flush D20 bonus using the X OM from a +3 to a +5. (Actually might make all +3s to +5s on everyones power as they all need the X, I find they fight over it).