C3G Unit Discussion - SSE S1 ; Part 2

[IAmBatman]

There was a hot minute in the early days of C3G where we thought this guy might be overpowered, but subsequent heavy hitters have brought him back down to Earth!

He's definitely a shark, where you want to activate him frequently and let him go to town offensively. The Omega Effect is tempting, but seems to backfire about as often as it helps you, so the more competitive play unless a special attack is really needed is to try to engage with Imposing Presence and wail away.

That Move of 4 keeps him in check and forces him to use the special attack more than he might like to otherwise, but flying helps.

[FreshFoods]

This guy is definitely an intimidating figure to see across the board. However, a movement of 4 makes him extremely easy to stay away from for ranged units. There are a lot of options in C3G to keep Darkseid from being too scary, but if he gets in there, someone is probably going to die.

I think in most cases I would send him out early game, and just try and let him punch through the enemies front line. It’s not uncommon for him to make his point cost back against a few 150-200 point units.

[IAmBatman]

Yeah, I think in the modern metagame, Darkseid likes two things:

1. Screens (set up a bunch of figures to lock people down and give him time to get in the mix

or, probably better

2. Teleporters (there are plenty of figures that can help him zip forward into the action and get into battle a lot faster)

If you could send him up with a team, lockdown figures like Blob are nice pairings to prevent him from being kited.

[Tornado]

Scary good. One of the best random draws in the game.
Is there Conquerer synergy?

[IAmBatman]

A little bit from Soundwave. The bigger, more important one, is Arthrian Invaders. They're probably the best choice for a screen for him, at least until Parademons have better synergy with him.

[Dysole]

In case you're curious, here's the odds of him getting a wound with his SA.

Def.     Self-Inflict %
0          0.78%
1          2.60%
2          5.64%
3          9.90%
4          15.23%
5          21.42%
6          28.19%
7          35.27%
8          42.41%
9          49.37%
10         56.00%

~Dysole, mathematically

[IAmBatman]

You're going to have to help the chart illiterate here (like me). What's the number on the lefthand side?

And by odds of him getting a wound, do you mean odds of him inflicting a wound on his target or odds of him inflicting a wound on himself? If it's the latter, I'm assuming the lefthand number is the target's defense number.

[Dysole]

Updated.

~Dysole, who almost put in labels the first go round

[IAmBatman]

Gotcha. Very interesting. It doesn’t account for defensive powers, of course.

[Xael Raymand]

I feel like I can never get behind this guy. His move of four just kills me. Of course my group always sets up the same long narrow map so maybe that has something to do with it.

[Lazy Orang]

Originally Posted by Xael Raymand

I feel like I can never get behind this guy. His move of four just kills me. Of course my group always sets up the same long narrow map so maybe that has something to do with it.

That's... got something to do with it, yeah!
Convince them to try different map shapes. They really affect strategic decision making.

[IAmBatman]

Pair him with a teleporter or a carrier. Robot might be a good pal.