Classic League IV: 4x530xB CONGRATS DYSOLE

[kevindola]

Classic League IV: 4x530xB

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Championship

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The Championship is on Cage Match.
The players whose names are italicized won the diceoff and decide who places first.

MegaSilver (5-0) v. Dysole (5-1)

MegaSilver:
* Aubrien Archers x6, Acolarh
* Ashigaru Harquebus x4, Ogre Warhulk, Sudema
* Marro Drones x6, Deathwalker 8000, Brandis Skyhunter
* Gorillinators x3, Nakita Agents, Evar Scarcarver, Guilty McCreech

Dysole:
* Omnicron Repulsors x3, Omnicron Snipers x2, Taelord
* Spiders x4, Sujoah, Wyvern, Estivara
* Arrow Gruts x4, Swog Rider x2, Ice Troll x2, Mimring
* Kato Katsuro, Raelin V2, Ashigaru Harquebus x2, Ashigaru Yari x2

Semifinals

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The Semifinals are on Phlegrean Fields.
The players whose names are italicized won the diceoff and decide who places first.

MegaSilver (4-0) v. Kinseth (4-1)

MegaSilver:
* Spiders x3, Sujoah, Wyvern, Estivara, Guilty McCreech
* Shaolin Monks x3, Master Win Chiu Woo, Syvarris, Tarn Vikings
* Wolves of Badru x3, White Wyrmling x5, Werewolf Lord
* Marro Drones x3, Frost Giant of Mohr, Nakita Agents, Siege

Kinseth:
* Omnicron Repulsors x3, Omnicron Snipers x2, Taelord
* Spiders x4, Sujoah, Wyvern, Estivara
* Arrow Gruts x4, Swog Rider x2, Ice Troll x2, Mimring
* Kato Katsuro, Raelin V2, Ashigaru Harquebus x2, Ashigaru Yari x2

ScapeRaider (3-1) v. Dysole (4-1)

ScapeRaider:
* Aubrien Archers x6, Acolarh
* Ashigaru Harquebus x4, Ogre Warhulk, Sudema
* Marro Drones x6, Deathwalker 8000, Brandis Skyhunter
* Gorillinators x3, Nakita Agents, Evar Scarcarver, Guilty McCreech

Dysole:
* Ulginesh, Johrdwan, Chardris, Emirroon, Arkmer, Izumi Samurai
* Arrow Gruts x3, Swog Rider x3, Mimring, Ice Troll Berserker x2, Otonashi
* Blue Wyrmling x6, White Wyrmling x6, Werewolf Lord
* Marro Drones x6, Su-Bak-Na, Johnny Shotgun Sullivan

Quarterfinals

Spoiler Alert!

MegaSilver and ScapeRaider have earned a bye

Kinseth (3-1) v. vegie's dad (3-1)

Kinseth:
* Warriors of Ashra x5, Shurrak, Nakita Agents
* Ashigaru Harquebus x4, Taelord, Syvarris
* Anubian Wolves x6, Khosumet
* Arrow Gruts x4, Swog Rider x4, Mimring, Raelin V2

vegie's dad:
* Spiders x3, Sujoah, Wyvern, Estivara, Guilty McCreech
* Shaolin Monks x3, Master Win Chiu Woo, Syvarris, Tarn Vikings
* Wolves of Badru x3, White Wyrmling x5, Werewolf Lord
* Marro Drones x3, Frost Giant of Mohr, Nakita Agents, Siege


Soundwarp SG-1 (3-1) v. Dysole (3-1)

Soundwarp SG-1:
* Aubrien Archers x6, Acolarh
* Ashigaru Harquebus x4, Ogre Warhulk, Sudema
* Marro Drones x6, Deathwalker 8000, Brandis Skyhunter
* Gorillinators x3, Nakita Agents, Evar Scarcarver, Guilty McCreech

Dysole:
* Granite Guardians x5, Guilty McCreech
* Omnicron Snipers x4, Omnicron Repulsors x2, Arkmer
* Shades of Bleakwoode x4, Kee-Mo-Shi
* Anubian Wolves x6, Khosumet

Round 4

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Round 4 is on Zephyr. (Dagmar, 2 Treasure)
The players whose names are italicized won the diceoff and decide who places first.

MegaSilver (3-0) v. ScapeRaider (3-0)
MegaSilver: Kato Katsuro, Raelin V2, Ashigaru Harquebus x2, Ashigaru Yari x2
ScapeRaider: Marro Drones x6, Su-Bak-Na, Johnny Shotgun Sullivan

Soundwarp SG-1 (2-1) v. Cat Attack Man (2-1)
Soundwarp SG-1: Anubian Wolves x6, Khosumet
Cat Attack Man: Ulginesh, Johrdawn, Syvarris, Chardris, Emirroon, Otonashi

Dysole (2-1) v. Black_Charos (2-1)
Dysole: Gorillinators x3, Nakita Agents, Evar Scarcarver, Guilty McCreech
Black_Charos: Tagawa Samurai Archers x5, Taelord, Otonashi

Kinseth (2-1) v. Ixe (2-1)
Kinseth: Marro Drones x3, Frost Giant of Mohr, Nakita Agents, Siege
Ixe: Einar Imperium x2, Raelin V2, Empress Kiova, Guilty McCreech

vegie's dad (2-1) v. Arrow Grut (2-1)
vegie's dad: Arrow Gruts x4, Swog Rider x4, Mimring, Raelin V2
Arrow Grut: Marro Drones x5, Su-Bak-Na, Raelin V2

simval (1-2) v. Taeblewalker (1-2)
simval: Warriors of Ashra x5, Taelord, Syvarris
Taeblewalker: Warriors of Ashra x1, Ulginesh, Johrdawn, Syvarris, Emirroon, Arkmer

mtl1998 (1-2) v. kevindola (1-2)
mtl1998: Aubrien Archers x4, Mimring, Iskra Esenwein, Rechets of Bogdan
kevindola: Spiders x4, Wyvern x2, Estivara, Brandis Skyhunter

vegietarian18 (1-2) v. betawolf36 (0-3)
vegietarian18: Marro Drones x6, Su-Bak-Na, Iskra Esenwein
betawolf36: Anubian Wolves x3, Wolves of Badru x2, Blue Wyrmling x2, Khosumet

belgarath (0-3) v. Dr. Goomonkey (0-3)
belgarath: Kato Katsuro, Ashigaru Harquebus x2, Ashigaru Yari x2, Tagawa Samurai
Dr. Goomonkey: Arrow Gruts x2, Blade Gruts x1, Swog Rider x4, Mimring, Tornak, Izumi Samurai

Round 3

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Round 3 is on Infected Glade.
The players whose names are italicized won the diceoff and decide who places first.

Soundwarp SG-1 (2-0) v. MegaSilver (2-0)
Soundwarp SG-1: Shades of Bleakwoode x4, Kee-Mo-Shi
MegaSilver: Arrow Gruts x4, Swog Rider x2, Ice Troll x2, Mimring

ScapeRaider (2-0) v. Arrow Grut (2-0)
ScapeRaider: Blue Wyrmling x6, White Wyrmling x6, Werewolf Lord
Arrow Grut: Omnicron Repulsors x4, Omnicron Snipers x3, Blue Wyrmling 2

Dysole (1-1) v. Taeblewalker (1-1)
Dysole: Marro Drones x6, Deathwalker 8000, Brandis Skyhunter
Taeblewalker: Arrow Gruts x4, Swog Rider x4, Mimring, Ice Troll Berserker, Earth Elemental

vegietarian18 (1-1) v. Ixe (1-1)
vegietarian18: Quasatch Hunters x4, Tagawa Samurai
Ixe: Warriors of Ashra x3, Omnicron Snipers x2, Taelord

mtl1998 (1-1) v. Kinseth (1-1)
mtl1998: Anubian Wolves x3, Raelin V2, Brunak, Khosumet
Kinseth: Wolves of Badru x3, White Wyrmling x5, Werewolf Lord

vegie's dad (1-1) v. Dr. Goomonkey (0-2)
vegie's dad: Anubian Wolves x6, Khosumet
Dr. Goomonkey: Ulginesh, Morsbane, Johrdawn, Chardris, Arkmer, Spiders x1

kevindola (1-1) v. Cat Attack Man (1-1)
kevindola: Shaolin Monks x2, Master Win Chiu Woo, Deathwalker 8000, Mindflayer Mastermind
Cat Attack Man: Microcorp Agents x2, Siege, Mika Connour, Agent Carr

simval (0-2) v. belgarath (0-2)
simval: Blade Gruts x4, Raelin V2, Tornak, Ornak, Iskra Esenwein
belgarath: Protectors of Ullar x4, Feral Troll

betawolf36 (0-2) v. Black_Charos (1-1)
betawolf36: Spiders x6, Sujoah, Wyvern
Black_Charos: Warriors of Ashra x6, Rhogar Dragonspine, Syvarris, Kyntela Gwyn (sit one)

Round 2

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Round 2 is on Platypus. (Valda, Dagmar)
The players whose names are italicized won the diceoff and decide who places first.

Taeblewalker (1-0) v. Soundwarp SG-1 (1-0)
Taeblewalker: Granite Guardians x5, Guilty McCreech
Soundwarp SG-1: Omnicron Snipers x4, Omnicron Repulsors x2, Arkmer

Dysole (1-0) v. Arrow Grut (1-0)
Dysole: Ashigaru Harquebus x4, Ogre Warhulk, Sudema
Arrow Grut: Aubrien Archers x5, Acolarh, Arkmer, Kyntela Gwyn

MegaSilver (1-0) v. Cat Attack Man (1-0)
MegaSilver: Spiders x4, Sujoah, Wyvern, Estivara
Cat Attack Man: Tagawa Samurai Archers x2, Tagawa Samurai, Ninjas of the Northern Wind, Kozuke Samurai, Izumi Samurai

Ixe (1-0) v. ScapeRaider (1-0)
Ixe: Kato Katsuro, Ashigaru Harquebus x2, Ashigaru Yari x3, James Murphy (sit two)
ScapeRaider: Arrow Gruts x3, Swog Rider x3, Mimring, Ice Troll Berserker x2, Otonashi

vegietarian18 (1-0) v. mtl1998 (0-1)
vegietarian18: Arrow Gruts x3, Swog Rider x3, Nakita Agents, Raelin V2, Ice Troll Berserker, Otonashi
mtl1998: Maarden Hounds x3, Su-Bak-Na, Syvarris

kevindola (0-1) v. simval (0-1)
kevindola: Marro Drones x5, White Wyrmling x5, Tul-Bak-Ra (sit one)
simval: Arrow Gruts x4, Swog Rider x4, Mimring, Ice Troll Berserker, Guilty McCreech

Kinseth (0-1) v. belgarath (0-1)
Kinseth: Shaolin Monks x3, Master Win Chiu Woo, Syvarris, Tarn Vikings
belgarath: Marro Drones x5, Marro Hive, Syvarris, Otonashi

Dr. Goomonkey (0-1) v. Black_Charos (0-1)
Dr. Goomonkey: Aubrien Archers x4, Warriors of Ashra x3, Iron Golem (sit two)
Black_Charos: Ashigaru Harquebus x4, Raelin V2, Shurrak

betawolf36 (0-1) v. vegie's dad (0-1)
betawolf36: Quasatch Hunters x4, Deathwalker 8000
vegie's dad: Ashigaru Harquebus x4, Taelord, Syvarris

Round 1

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Round 1 is on Manticore.
The players whose names are italicized won the diceoff and decide who places first.

mtl1998 v. Arrow Grut
mtl1998: Tagawa Samurai Archers x3, Jotun, Rhogar Dragonspine
Arrow Grut: Blade Gruts x4, Tornak, Deathwalker 8000, Syvarris

Dr. Goomonkey v. MegaSilver
Dr. Goomonkey: Anubian Wolves x3, Wolves of Badru x2, Khosumet, Zettian Guards
MegaSilver: Omnicron Repulsors x3, Omnicron Snipers x2, Taelord

Dysole v. betawolf36
Dysole: Aubrien Archers x6, Acolarh
betawolf36: Marro Drudge x4, Marro Hive, Sonlen, Otonashi

vegie's dad v. Cat Attack Man
vegie's dad: Warriors of Ashra x5, Shurrak, Nakita Agents
Cat Attack Man: Arrow Gruts x3, Swog Rider x2, Mimring, Master of the Hunt, Deepwyrm Drow x1

kevindola v. Taeblewalker
kevindola: Warriors of Ashra x2, Ulginesh, Johrdawn, Emirroon, Arkmer, Kyntela Gwyn, Guilty McCreech
Taeblewalker: Marro Drones x6, Jotun

ScapeRaider v. Kinseth
ScapeRaider: Ulginesh, Johrdwan, Chardris, Emirroon, Arkmer, Izumi Samurai
Kinseth: Spiders x3, Sujoah, Wyvern, Estivara, Guilty McCreech

Ixe v. belgarath
Ixe: Granite Guardians x4, Warden 816, Drow Chainfighter, Otonashi
belgarath: Blade Gruts x4, Ornak, Tornak, Sonlen

Black_Charos v. Soundwarp SG-1
Black_Charos: Marro Drones x6, Su-Bak-Na, Arkmer
Soundwarp SG-1: Granite Guardians x5, Guilty McCreech

simval v. vegietarian18
simval: Granite Guardians x3, Gurei-Oni, Warden 816, Blue Wyrmling x1
vegietarian18: Anubian Wolves x6, Khosumet

Complete Army List Per Player

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MegaSilver:
* Omnicron Repulsors x3, Omnicron Snipers x2, Taelord
* Spiders x4, Sujoah, Wyvern, Estivara
* Arrow Gruts x4, Swog Rider x2, Ice Troll x2, Mimring
* Kato Katsuro, Raelin V2, Ashigaru Harquebus x2, Ashigaru Yari x2

Soundwarp SG-1:
* Granite Guardians x5, Guilty McCreech
* Omnicron Snipers x4, Omnicron Repulsors x2, Arkmer
* Shades of Bleakwoode x4, Kee-Mo-Shi
* Anubian Wolves x6, Khosumet

Dysole:
* Aubrien Archers x6, Acolarh
* Ashigaru Harquebus x4, Ogre Warhulk, Sudema
* Marro Drones x6, Deathwalker 8000, Brandis Skyhunter
* Gorillinators x3, Nakita Agents, Evar Scarcarver, Guilty McCreech

Kinseth:
* Spiders x3, Sujoah, Wyvern, Estivara, Guilty McCreech
* Shaolin Monks x3, Master Win Chiu Woo, Syvarris, Tarn Vikings
* Wolves of Badru x3, White Wyrmling x5, Werewolf Lord
* Marro Drones x3, Frost Giant of Mohr, Nakita Agents, Siege

vegie's dad:
* Warriors of Ashra x5, Shurrak, Nakita Agents
* Ashigaru Harquebus x4, Taelord, Syvarris
* Anubian Wolves x6, Khosumet
* Arrow Gruts x4, Swog Rider x4, Mimring, Raelin V2

simval:
* Granite Guardians x3, Gurei-Oni, Warden 816, Blue Wyrmling x1
* Arrow Gruts x4, Swog Rider x4, Mimring, Ice Troll Berserker, Guilty McCreech
* Blade Gruts x4, Raelin V2, Tornak, Ornak, Iskra Esenwein
* Warriors of Ashra x5, Taelord, Syvarris

mtl1998:
* Tagawa Samurai Archers x3, Jotun, Rhogar Dragonspine
* Maarden Hounds x3, Su-Bak-Na, Syvarris
* Anubian Wolves x3, Raelin V2, Brunak, Khosumet
* Aubrien Archers x4, Mimring, Iskra Esenwein, Rechets of Bogdan

vegietarian18:
* Anubian Wolves x6, Khosumet
* Arrow Gruts x3, Swog Rider x3, Nakita Agents, Raelin V2, Ice Troll Berserker, Otonashi
* Quasatch Hunters x4, Tagawa Samurai
* Marro Drones x6, Su-Bak-Na, Iskra Esenwein

belgarath:
* Blade Gruts x4, Ornak, Tornak, Sonlen
* Marro Drones x5, Marro Hive, Syvarris, Otonashi
* Protectors of Ullar x4, Feral Troll
* Kato Katsuro, Ashigaru Harquebus x2, Ashigaru Yari x2, Tagawa Samurai

ScapeRaider:
* Ulginesh, Johrdwan, Chardris, Emirroon, Arkmer, Izumi Samurai
* Arrow Gruts x3, Swog Rider x3, Mimring, Ice Troll Berserker x2, Otonashi
* Blue Wyrmling x6, White Wyrmling x6, Werewolf Lord
* Marro Drones x6, Su-Bak-Na, Johnny Shotgun Sullivan

Cat Attack Man:
* Arrow Gruts x3, Swog Rider x2, Mimring, Master of the Hunt, Deepwyrm Drow x1
* Tagawa Samurai Archers x2, Tagawa Samurai, Ninjas of the Northern Wind, Kozuke Samurai, Izumi Samurai
* Microcorp Agents x2, Siege, Mika Connour, Agent Carr
* Ulginesh, Johrdawn, Syvarris, Chardris, Emirroon, Otonashi

Black_Charos:
* Marro Drones x6, Su-Bak-Na, Arkmer
* Ashigaru Harquebus x4, Raelin V2, Shurrak
* Warriors of Ashra x6, Rhogar Dragonspine, Syvarris, Kyntela Gwyn (sit one)
* Tagawa Samurai Archers x5, Taelord, Otonashi

Ixe:
* Granite Guardians x4, Warden 816, Drow Chainfighter, Otonashi
* Kato Katsuro, Ashigaru Harquebus x2, Ashigaru Yari x3, James Murphy (sit two)
* Warriors of Ashra x3, Omnicron Snipers x2, Taelord
* Einar Imperium x2, Raelin V2, Empress Kiova, Guilty McCreech

Arrow Grut:
* Blade Gruts x4, Tornak, Deathwalker 8000, Syvarris
* Aubrien Archers x5, Acolarh, Arkmer, Kyntela Gwyn
* Omnicron Repulsors x4, Omnicron Snipers x3, Blue Wyrmling 2
* Marro Drones x5, Su-Bak-Na, Raelin V2

Taeblewalker:
* Marro Drones x6, Jotun
* Granite Guardians x5, Guilty McCreech
* Arrow Gruts x4, Swog Rider x4, Mimring, Ice Troll Berserker, Earth Elemental
* Warriors of Ashra x1, Ulginesh, Johrdawn, Syvarris, Emirroon, Arkmer

kevindola:
* Warriors of Ashra x2, Ulginesh, Johrdawn, Emirroon, Arkmer, Kyntela Gwyn, Guilty McCreech
* Marro Drones x5, White Wyrmling x5, Tul-Bak-Ra (sit one)
* Shaolin Monks x2, Master Win Chiu Woo, Deathwalker 8000, Mindflayer Mastermind
* Spiders x4, Wyvern x2, Estivara, Brandis Skyhunter

betawolf36:
* Marro Drudge x4, Marro Hive, Sonlen, Otonashi
* Quasatch Hunters x4, Deathwalker 8000
* Spiders x6, Sujoah, Wyvern
* Anubian Wolves x3, Wolves of Badru x2, Blue Wyrmling x2, Khosumet

Dr. Goomonkey:
* Anubian Wolves x3, Wolves of Badru x2, Khosumet, Zettian Guards
* Aubrien Archers x4, Warriors of Ashra x3, Iron Golem
* Ulginesh, Morsbane, Johrdawn, Chardris, Arkmer, Spiders x1
* Arrow Gruts x2, Blade Gruts x1, Swog Rider x4, Mimring, Tornak, Izumi Samurai

Event Details

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This tournament will be bi-weekly. You will have two weeks to complete your game with your opponent. (Week 1 begins Monday 9/29)

The format will be in the style of the traditional gencon 4x4 but with a different point total and a power ranking restriction.

Rules:
- Create 4 different armies that cannot share any army cards between them
- 530 point limit
- 20 figure limit
- 24 hex limit
- Classic Figures Only (No Marvel, No C3G, No VC)
- All figures in your army must be ranked B or lower (for clarification, B+ figures are NOT allowed)
-When submitting your armies your #1 army will be played in Round 1. Your #2 army will be played in Round 2, and so on….

List of figures by power ranking can be found here



Tournament Setup:

-There will be 4 rounds (swiss style) lasting 2 weeks each.
-I will re-pair opponents to avoid ‘near mirror matches’ (at least 250 points in similar figures
) If that is unavoidable I will randomly pick one of the players to play with their subsequent round army. If that does not avoid the scenario then I will surrender to fate’s decision of playing the match as is.

Playoffs – Reverse the Whip:

-Any player who has 3 or more wins in the 4 games will make the playoffs.
-Seeding will be done by SoS as calculated by opponent’s wins.
-Playoffs will be Reverse the Whip elimination. You will select one of your opponent’s remaining armies to play. Once one of your armies is selected for play in the playoffs, it cannot be selected a second time in later rounds. If any players receive a bye, they may select an army to eliminate from the selection pool before their first game.

This means that the Championship game could possibly not have a choice. Depending on the number of playoff entrants, there may only be one army left for each player to choose from.

Spoiler Alert!

The logistics of this selection process will be for the players to PM the Tournament Organizer (kevindola) their army selections. Once I have received both selections I will post the matchup. In the case the tournament organizer is involved in a playoff game, a 3rd party will be identified to receive PMs from both players and announce the matchup when applicable.

Games are played using the online Heroscape interface. Links to how-to-play videos below:

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Interface

Demonstration game

Maps

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Manticore (Ulaniva, Lodin)


Infected Glade (Ulaniva, Wannok, Crevcor, 1 Treasure Glyph)


Yavin 4 (2 glyphs of Rannveig in Startzone, 2 Treasure Glyphs)


Platypus (Heavy Snow, Normal Ice) (Valda, Dagmar)


Cage Match (Gerda, Kelda (inside)-Valda, Wannok (outside), 2 Treasure Glyphs)


Zephyr (Dagmar, 2 Treasure Glyphs)


Phlegrean Fields (Lodin, Kelda)



Remains of Clionesia (Lodin x2, 2 Treasure Glyphs)

Treasure Glyphs and Trap

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Heroic Rune - Normal attack +1
Scarab of Invulnerability (temporary)
Potion of Healing (temporary)
Bracers of Teleportation (temporary)
Talisman of Defense – Defense +1

Trap: You may either reveal one unrevealed order marker from this figure’s army card and remove it or you may give the figure one wound.

History of the Classic League

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History of the Classic League
Classic League III: War of the Worlds (1st vegie’s dad, 2nd awesomeunleashed)
Classic League II: Casualties of War (1st kevindola, 2nd vegie's dad)
Classic League I: Pod Draft (1st kevindola, 2nd Dysole)

Participants:

1. kevindola
2. betawolf36
3. Taeblewalker
4. Soundwarp SG-1
5. MegaSilver
6. Black_Charos
7. vegie's dad
8. Kinseth
9. Dysole
10. mtl1998
11. Ixe
12. belgarath
13. Cat Attack Man
14. vegietarian18
15. simval
16. Dr. Goomonkey
17. ScapeRaider
18. Arrow Grut

[Hogg]

I'm kind of interested in this but I'm not sure about building 4 armies with unit restrictions.

Are there plans for a regular Classic HS Only tournament around 500 points? That is what I want to play most.

[Kinseth]

I'll be winning... I mean playing in this.

[kevindola]

Originally Posted by Hogg

I'm kind of interested in this but I'm not sure about building 4 armies with unit restrictions.

Are there plans for a regular Classic HS Only tournament around 500 points? That is what I want to play most.

I do an informal poll among the fringe online players before these classic tournaments, and the feedback I get for formatting is almost always one of the following:

1) Army Variety (draft, pod draft, take 2, etc....)
2) Blind with heavy restrictions (B+, Generals, War of the Worlds, etc....)

This particular format I tried to mix the requests (we'll see the results of that experiment I suppose), but I mention all that because I have seen very little to no interest for 'vanilla' blind army construction. If that general feeling changes, than I would be happy willing to roll out such a tournament, but I'm not seeing it yet.

I would suggest posting in the online request match thread for your requested parameters.

I personally find it fun to create multiple armies with restrictions, but I can understand the sentiment if some people don't like the fact they will be non-traditionally competitive armies. Or the dislike for effectively banning some figures from the format.

[Hogg]

Originally Posted by kevindola

I do an informal poll among the fringe online players before these classic tournaments, and the feedback I get for formatting is almost always one of the following:

Having never seen one of the polls, I wonder if you are asking too narrow a pool of players?

I hardly ever get a chance to play Heroscape with people who will challenge me. I would like to play a competitive tournament with access to all the (non Marvel) official figures. Once I'm bored of that I might be more interested in other formats.

[dok]

Originally Posted by kevindola

I do an informal poll among the fringe online players before these classic tournaments, and the feedback I get for formatting is almost always one of the following:

1) Army Variety (draft, pod draft, take 2, etc....)
2) Blind with heavy restrictions (B+, Generals, War of the Worlds, etc....)

Interesting. Personally (obviously I don't count as a fringe player, although I'm arguably fringe w.r.t. the classic league) I have a strong preference for the former sort of format over the latter one. I find the "all your figures must have an even number of vowels in their names"-type formats to be kind of arbitrary and boring. They just strike me as a hacky way to create a new metagame, and often that metagame is (to my taste, at least) less interesting than the original.

Broadly speaking, there's a third option available: scenarios or alternative victory conditions. I assume you put that option out but it hasn't been very popular?

As long as you're responding to people's stated preferences you can't really be doing the wrong thing.

[betawolf36]

Can I resubmit army one and four. Both had ten points left and I had to figure out which one needed Otonashi more, but I spent some extra time playing around with points and now I don't need Otonashi in build 4. She needs to be in 1 now and build 4 needs a whole new list.

[kevindola]

Originally Posted by Hogg

Having never seen one of the polls, I wonder if you are asking too narrow a pool of players?

Could be. My 'fringe' players are reserved for those who only occasionally participate in the online leagues, or have expressed interest in classic league play or have expressed the once a week time commitment of the normal OHS seasons as being too high. (Which is why this league is bi-weekly). Also I will not that the last poll was done in July so there are undoubtedly some that fall under that criteria since then that I did not include, or I just missed them.

Originally Posted by Hogg

I hardly ever get a chance to play Heroscape with people who will challenge me. I would like to play a competitive tournament with access to all the (non Marvel) official figures. Once I'm bored of that I might be more interested in other formats.

Looks like you played in Season 14 (Gencon warmup) so I don't know if that format was to your taste or not. I don't particularly want to go into this at all, but I am by no means bored with playing any format of heroscape. Nor do I think that the majority of people who like restriction type formats are bored of standard blind play. It is simply one method used to promote play with figures that are not used as often.

Originally Posted by dok

I find the "all your figures must have an even number of vowels in their names"-type formats to be kind of arbitrary and boring. They just strike me as a hacky way to create a new metagame, and often that metagame is (to my taste, at least) less interesting than the original.

I find them arbitrary and not boring, but that's just taste. You can ask Vegie about our create-a-format (each player picks two random restrictions) that included an alphabetical caveat. I also used to put three Risk boards side-side-side (2210, Normal, and European) and play time travel Risk, so I am probably a terrible source of this opinion.

Originally Posted by dok

Broadly speaking, there's a third option available: scenarios or alternative victory conditions. I assume you put that option out but it hasn't been very popular?

I should probably clarify my statement of '...feedback I get is almost always...'. That should be 'of the opinionated responses I get', because I do get responses of 'don't care' or 'whatever format'. The question is a blank 'what format would you want to see' or 'what format do you NOT want to see'. I have not received much response one way or the other about the alternative victory condition formats.

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Originally Posted by betawolf36

Can I resubmit army one and four.

that is fine

[Hogg]

Originally Posted by kevindola

Looks like you played in Season 14 (Gencon warmup) so I don't know if that format was to your taste or not.

Yes I did and it was a lot of fun. It allowed any classic units with a limit of 425 points and 16 figures. I don't like 'reverse the whip' rounds but I didn't make it that far.

Both of the local tournaments I've played in have been 500-540 points with a 24 hex starting zone. That is the format I prefer because it allows a lot of freedom in army building.

[mtl1998]

Is there a certain order the maps will be played in? Like is the first round going to be played on a certain map, or will it be random?

[kevindola]

Originally Posted by mtl1998

Is there a certain order the maps will be played in? Like is the first round going to be played on a certain map, or will it be random?

Random

Interesting you bring this up, because I had quite a bit of discussion with various people about setting a pre-determined map order. It was mixed opinions but I decided that the reduction in army variability based on known map conditions was not worth the coolness of designing an army to play on a specific map.

[mtl1998]

Yeah, I agree with that. Thanks