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Old April 8th, 2021, 10:31 AM
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Re: The Book of Superwoman (Lana Lang) (Public Testing)

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I like Electromagnetic Lift, but I might even consider making it only work on her turn. (And maybe making it open to all species as a trade-off?) That gives her kind of a fun niche, and wanting to easily be able to take a turn with her pushes her towards factional stuff over random generalist armies.
Do you think you prefer that to the current lockdown stuff?
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Re: The Book of Superwoman (Lana Lang) (Public Testing)

I think just being the dedicated figure mover for the faction is a more reliable niche than where she was at when I playtested her. But then I also get what Ronin is saying about how sometimes 'just being able to ignore annoying crap' is a nice power to have.
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Old April 8th, 2021, 02:44 PM
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Re: The Book of Superwoman (Lana Lang) (Public Testing)

Quick test of proposed changes:

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C3G STANDARD PLAYTEST FEEDBACK FORM
NAME OF THE TEST UNIT Superwoman
Army Test
Map: Conflict Chernobyl
Units: Superman (Family), Superboy (Jon), Superwoman (230), Jimmy Olsen, Starman (1000) vs Fan 4 (1000)
Unit Summary
Damage: 7 Damage total: 2 on Torch, 2 on Thing, 3 on Mr Fantastic
Abilities: Only one attack with no skulls preventing movement, moved allies on almost all turns, only 1 time got out of engagement.
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So yeah, I like the Lift over the Lockdown. Nice for the faction, like the baked in thematic synergy with Steel and Lois, less to remember at most moments. Feels like a winner there of a change. Main question is whether or not to keep the auto on the Manipulations. Could also see dropping defense one, as she felt a bit surprisingly bulky (which may be in comparison to the offensive potential she felt like she had there).

C3G STANDARD PLAYTEST FEEDBACK FORM
NAME OF THE TEST UNIT Superwoman
Army Test
Map: Conflict Chernobyl
Units: Superman (Family), Superboy (Jon), Superwoman (230), Jimmy Olsen, Starman (1000) vs OG XMen (1000)
Unit Summary
Damage: 1 Damage dealt to Iceman. 2 on Angel.
Abilities: Moved up Jimmy and Jon twice in first round. Got Kal away from Beast twice. Would have inflicted 1 auto on Xavier.
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After a second game I feel much better about the proposed changes. The blank autowound would have only impacted once, and it makes for an interesting strategic thing when you are unable to really do much damage (like only 1 skull rolled). Am dropping defense by 1, as she has felt a bit too sturdy in my games.

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Old April 9th, 2021, 12:40 PM
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Re: The Book of Superwoman (Lana Lang) (Public Testing)

Cool, thanks for rolling with the feedback here! I'll take the new version for a spin today.
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Re: The Book of Superwoman (Lana Lang) (Public Testing)

Hey the communication on feel was awesome, glad to be able to get this through to a good place. I'm gonna guess we will probably still need another test after you due to the change, but she will be better for it.
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Re: The Book of Superwoman (Lana Lang) (Public Testing)

C3G STANDARD PLAYTEST FEEDBACK FORM

NAME OF THE PLAYTEST UNIT: Superwoman (Lana Lang)

Version Tested:
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Army Test
Map: Custom
Units: Superwoman @220, Superman (Family), Superboy (Jon), Krypto, Kelex, Skrull Infiltrator (900) vs Cyclops (I), Jean Grey, Spider-Girl, Armor, Jubilee, Phoenix (900)
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Version Tested:
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Army Test
Map: Custom
Units: Superwoman @230, Superman (Family), Superboy (Jon), Krypto, Kelex (900) vs Cyclops (I), Jean Grey, Spider-Girl, Armor, Jubilee, Phoenix (900)
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THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT'S COST, BALANCE, & DRAFTABILITY: Really fun after the revisions - the figure movement stuff gives her a cool faction role.
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Old April 17th, 2021, 03:34 PM
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Re: The Book of Superwoman (Lana Lang) (Public Testing)

Tests from FreshFoods. 2 losses here, putting her at 1-2 with after the defense drop, 2-3 if you add the pre-defense drop. 2-1 in games within the faction, so may need to stay there at 230 to account for that, open to thoughts there.

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C3G STANDARD PLAYTEST FEEDBACK FORM

NAME OF THE PLAYTEST UNIT : SUPERWOMAN (LANA LANG)

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Army Test
Map : Conflict Chernobyl (No Glyphs)
Units :
Superwoman (230), Superman *Super Family* (430), Superboy *Champion* (240)
= 900


VS.

Pinhead (335), Malice (300), Leatherface (95), Jason Voorhees (175)
= 900


Spoiler Alert!


Army Test
Map : Conflict Chernobyl (No Glyphs)
Units :
Superwoman (230), Kelex (40), Green Arrow II (210), All Might (340), Vibe (180)
= 1000


VS.

Luke Cage (190), Wolverine *Laura* (280), The Thing II (340), Scarlet Spider (190)
= 1000


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Thoughts on the Tested Unit's Cost, Balance, and Draftability : I dig her. I think she feels about right at 230, and I can see her fitting into Justice League or Super Family builds perfectly fine. I didn’t normal attack at all, but it feels like her special is designed to be used more often.

General Thoughts on the Tested Unit : Two loses, but they were both pretty close and she did some real work in the first game. Seems like she's designed to rarely normal attack, if that’s what you were going for then she’s a solid unit to me. I could maybe see her dropping about 10 points, if she's coming in a little light on other tests. She’s not as much of a heavy hitter as other units you’ll use in her builds, but the movement manipulation she provides is super useful.
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Re: The Book of Superwoman (Lana Lang) (Public Testing)

I propose we move to Final Editing at 220 or 230. Please let a preference (if any) be known with your vote.
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Re: The Book of Superwoman (Lana Lang) (Vote Final Editing)

yea, no preference
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Re: The Book of Superwoman (Lana Lang) (Vote Final Editing)

Yea at 230

Seems best from the tests to me
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Re: The Book of Superwoman (Lana Lang) (Vote Final Editing)

yea

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