The Book of Su-Bak-Na

[ASmiles]

Originally Posted by Aranas

Is the +1 applicable only for powers on theses Army cards or any circumstances where you have to roll for a Marro or Wulsinu Figures. Take Mitonsul as an example? (or Sturla, Oreld, Nilrend, Wannock, etc.)

My take would be that Su-Bak-Na only affects the powers listed on those cards, and NOT for all D20 rolls that a wulsinu or marro figure has to make.

[ChaosChild]

Originally Posted by ASmiles

My take would be that Su-Bak-Na only affects the powers listed on those cards, and NOT for all D20 rolls that a wulsinu or marro figure has to make.

I agree.

[that guy]

Originally Posted by Aranas

Is the +1 applicable only for powers on theses Army cards or any circumstances where you have to roll for a Marro or Wulsinu Figures. Take Mitonsul as an example? (or Sturla, Oreld, Nilrend, Wannock, etc.)


Aranas

It says army card, not the player using the army card. So it only counts for Marro powers.

[kenjib]

I just played this guy with two sets of nagrubs. This combo took out Captain America (who had already taken two wounds), Deadeye Dan, and Sir Denrick. After all of this he had eaten all of his Scooby Snacks (nagrubs) and only had two wound markers on him after the fight. This means that he effectively had 11 life by the time the game ended. I did get some lucky rolls too but there was some serious butt-kicking going on and with the nagrubs it was quite a bit easier to send Su-Bak-Na in blazing right into the thick of things.

The biggest caveat was that he didn't have to face any serious multi-attacking ranged threats. I think it's a great combo for cleanup, though, by which time you could have already eliminated a fair amount of the opponent's ranged squads. This plus 3 sets of stingers is an even 400 points, and the stingers get a +1 to their drain roll while you send them in as the vanguard of your attack. You could throw in the krav maga on top for a solid 500 point army.

3x Stingers
2x Nagrubs
Su-Bak-Na
Krav Maga

Try to use the krav maga to counter key ranged units, the stingers to take out the bulk of the opponent's army, and send in Su-Bak-Na and his Scooby Snacklings to tackle the hard to crack targets and/or to finish off the game.

[MechaBeast]

Im play testing
4 stingers
3 grubs
1 SBN
and Isamu

Its working quite well for me.
SBN is seeing a lot more play than TKN these days because of the grubs

[Sisyphus]

Originally Posted by MechaBeast

Im play testing
4 stingers
3 grubs
1 SBN
and Isamu

Its working quite well for me.
SBN is seeing a lot more play than TKN these days because of the grubs

I have played that and loved it. At 500 points/24 spaces you know it was meant to be.

[Riptide]

I finally got to play with SBN the other day - my group has had a prolonged hiatus due to my going to school and another buddy's wife becoming preggers - and i was thoroughly impressed at the affect he has on a Marro Army. I shan't be without him now that I have him.

He saved at least 3 stingers from death becasue I can't roll the d20 when it really matters. I wasn't able to mindshackle anyone but he did put that fear into my opponents and that left Ne-Gok-Sa alone until SBN died.

Also, that 7 attack wiped Mimring from the board in one attack. He had just obliterated a line of Drudge in the swamp and apparently wasn't worried about SBN being only 3 spaces away. It was awesome. SBN is definitely a must have in your Marro Army.

[A_Train]

I agree, SBN is one of my favorite units, maybe even my most favorite unit. With a defense of 3 he may not be as competitve as some other units, but I don't play a lot of tournament calibre play, so I get a lot of use out of SBN.

[Snotwalker 8000]

SBN was completely revitalized with the release of the Nagrubs.

He's still a paper tiger with that weak defense, but at least with the Nagrubs, he's got some scotch tape available to patch up the rips.

[Einar's puppy]

I didn't read the whole thread so sorry if this was mentioned.

Did anyone relize that Sue here plus two hords of doggy treats is 220 points, a.k.a Torky. This is an interesting little thing. For 220 you can get sir stomps a lot or Sue and some trail mix.

[shotgunshawn]

Originally Posted by The Super Atheist

Su-Bak-Na should never, ever, be put out in the open. He should never, ever move towards an enemy without being able to attack it. He wil always be cut down if he is left out in the open. always.

I like to pair him with the nagrubs and put all 3 order markers on them. Then run Su-Bak-Na out and kill, kill, kill until he finally falls. With one set of nagrubs its 190 points, we always play at least 600 point armies. So I consider it an acceptable loss if I can destroy enough before he dies, and a vast majority of the time I do. I have taken Q9 down in one shot several times. My opponents have chosen to lock Cyprien up with him alot and he has NEVER prevailed against the bone dragon. In one game in particular I killed Mimring, Cyprien, Q9, Zelrig, not to mention a few squadies before my opponents were finally able to take him down.

Of course there are those times when I lose him without even rolling the dice once, but that usually happens when I hold him back and bring him out later, so go figure.

[Teh_Marro_Child]

SBN is my favorite hivelord hands down plus using him with KMS really makes the mind shackle a scarry reality for opponents!