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The Book of Doctor Fate (Kent Nelson) (II)

The Book of Doctor Fate (Kent Nelson) (II)

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The figure used for this unit is a Heroclix figure from the Joker’s Wild set.
Its model number and name are #042 / Doctor Fate.

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Character Bio - While in Mesopotamia with his father, Sven Nelson, the famed archaeologist Kent unwittingly awoke Nabu from suspended animation by releasing Nabu a poisonous gas was released, killing Kent's father but leaving him unharmed. Nabu took pity on Kent, where he erased Kent's memory of his father and raised Kent as his apprentice, making him become Doctor Fate, Sorcerer Supreme of Earth. - Comic Vine
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-Rulings and Clarifications-
  • Q - When Doctor Fate uses Twist of Fate to swap his 20-sided die with another, do modifications add to the die he is taking?
  • A - No. The 20-sided die he takes is only what the die shows. So if a 12 is rolled, and someone can add or subtract 3 from it, he is still only taking the 12.
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-Combinations and Synergies-

Incoming Synergy:
  • As a Human, Doctor Fate has these Human Synergies.
  • As a Champion, Doctor Fate has these Champion Synergies.
  • As a figure with the Magical Defense special power, Doctor Fate has these Magical Defense Synergies.
  • As a Human with the Magical Defense special power, Doctor Fate may be chosen for Wong's Loyal Manservant special power.
Outgoing Synergy:
  • N/A
Immunities, Benefits, and Weaknesses:_________________________________________________________________

-Strategy, Tactics and Tips-
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Re: The Book of Doctor Fate (Kent Nelson) (II) (Breathing)

NAME = DOCTOR FATE
SECRET IDENTITY = KENT NELSON

SPECIES = HUMAN
UNIQUENESS = UNIQUE HERO
CLASS = CHAMPION
PERSONALITY = RESOLUTE

SIZE/HEIGHT = MEDIUM 5

LIFE = 5

MOVE = 5
RANGE = 5
ATTACK = 5
DEFENSE = 5

POINTS = 370


TWIST OF FATE
At the start of the game, roll a 20-sided die. Place the result and 7 gold Fate Markers on this card. After a player rolls the 20-sided die for initiative or a special power, you may immediately remove a Fate Marker from this card to swap that player's rolled 20-sided die with the 20-sided die on this card. After swapping, that player must use the new result instead.

MYSTIC ORDER
Instead of moving normally, you may roll the 20-sided die. If you roll 7 or lower, choose 2 to 4 Unique Heroes within 7 clear sight spaces of Doctor Fate. Re-organize the Wound Markers on all chosen Heroes’ Army Cards until all chosen Heroes are within 1 wound of each other.

MAGICAL DEFENSE
When Doctor Fate is attacked by an opponent's figure that does not have the Magical Defense special power, the most wounds Doctor Fate can take for this attack is one.

SUPER STRENGTH

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Re: The Book of Doctor Fate (Kent Nelson) (II) (Breathing)

Very excited for this one. A Fate that isn't super factional and isn't over costed by nature of being one of the first Magical Defense figures (or like the first start zone bomb enabler). Dice manipulation feels fine here as it feels like an extension of Doctor Fate. Twist of Fate doesn't feel super interesting to me right now, as it doesn't feel like something I'd want to do often without Zatanna around. No blanks rolled isn't that hard to pull off on five dice (I say as someone who's had it happen a frustrating amount with Martian Manhunter).
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Re: The Book of Doctor Fate (Kent Nelson) (II) (Breathing)

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No blanks rolled isn't that hard to pull off on five dice (I say as someone who's had it happen a frustrating amount with Martian Manhunter).
I think we should update Martian Manhunter to just choose a single figure to move 4 spaces.

Fate looks cool! I think a real nasty army core would be Fate, Liu Kang, and Zatanna II. At least Zatanna is thematic so I don't really mind! He'll be pretty swingy since he has the CHANCE to heal 5 or deal 5 autowounds, but it'll be so rare that I'm not concerned yet.
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Re: The Book of Doctor Fate (Kent Nelson) (II) (Breathing)

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Very excited for this one. A Fate that isn't super factional and isn't over costed by nature of being one of the first Magical Defense figures (or like the first start zone bomb enabler). Dice manipulation feels fine here as it feels like an extension of Doctor Fate. Twist of Fate doesn't feel super interesting to me right now, as it doesn't feel like something I'd want to do often without Zatanna around. No blanks rolled isn't that hard to pull off on five dice (I say as someone who's had it happen a frustrating amount with Martian Manhunter).
Mystical Manipulation can be used to get the auto-blank, which is nice. We can play around with how many dice are rolled, just sticking with 5’s for simplicity. Also open to making it something he can give up his movement to do, thus still allowing for his attack. Just really depends on what point level we want. Thematically there’s no reason he couldn’t be mid 300’s if desired, with high 200’s being the floor.
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Re: The Book of Doctor Fate (Kent Nelson) (II) (Breathing)

Oh yeah definitely situations where manipulation would be good to use on it, just a lot of things (like a lot of combats) I think saving it for would be the general preference.
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Re: The Book of Doctor Fate (Kent Nelson) (II) (Breathing)

Could definitely be nasty paired with Zatanna and in the JL Faction. Looking forward to this one.

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Re: The Book of Doctor Fate (Kent Nelson) (II) (Breathing)

I’ll also pimp Tarot Spell: Magician and Tarot Spell: Temperance, since they seem like good pairings here, especially if you’re bringing Zatanna along.
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Re: The Book of Doctor Fate (Kent Nelson) (II) (Breathing)

Would one of the following alterations to Twist of Fate be preferable, or do we feel how it is currently is worth giving up an attack to attempt/use? What's more interesting?

A: Lessened effect, but gives up his movement instead of his attack.
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TWIST OF FATE
Instead of moving normally with Doctor Fate, you may roll 3 combat dice. For each blank rolled, place a Wound Marker on or remove a Wound Marker from the Army Card of a figure within 3 clear sight spaces of Doctor Fate.
B: Gives up his movement instead of his attack, but limits the effect on each figure to a maximum of 1.
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TWIST OF FATE
Instead of moving normally with Doctor Fate, you may roll 5 combat dice. For each blank rolled, place a Wound Marker on or remove a Wound Marker from the Army Card of a figure within 5 clear sight spaces of Doctor Fate. When placing or removing Wound Markers with Twist of Fate, you may not place or remove more than one Wound Marker on the same Army Card this turn.
C: Only triggers on a turn where no damage is done, be it voluntarily(the same as the SP) or due to a failed attack.
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TWIST OF FATE
After taking a turn with Doctor Fate, if he did not inflict any wounds, you may roll 5 combat dice. For each blank rolled, place a Wound Marker on or remove a Wound Marker from the Army Card of a figure within 5 clear sight spaces of Doctor Fate.
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Re: The Book of Doctor Fate (Kent Nelson) (II) (Breathing)

I kinda like C, with the caveat that it may still need the last line from B if it's coming in too hot.
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Re: The Book of Doctor Fate (Kent Nelson) (II) (Breathing)

C is obviously a pretty direct upgrade in most situations, but it’s definitely interesting.

Honestly a lot of my opinion just comes down to how powerful the LD wants this version of Fate to feel. (And Fate is obviously the kind of character who is extremely flexible in point value.)
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