The Book of Superman (Billy Batson)

[Lord Pyre]

Yeah, did we FAQ Battle Beast? I'd check there, similar ideas.

I feel like jucier is fine. This is a mix of Captain Marvel and Superman, and he didn't feel on par with either of them to me.

[LordVenoc]

Originally Posted by tcglkn

We already said in Battle Beasts thread that you’re ignoring those wounds by default. What else is happening to them?

Cool. Just making sure that there wasn't a ton of risk of some weird "not receiving vs ignoring" sort of distinction going on.

[Ronin]

Yeah, 'not receiving' and 'ignoring' being different would get too weird.

Really dig this design. I'd suggest opening up TA to let him pop in for attacks against friendlies. Also you should specify "any of your unrevealed Order Markers". Only once per game, but still it'd be a bit wild to see him pull a quadruple Ozymandias.

[IAmBatman]

Heh, good call. Yeah, I'm sure stealing OMs from the opponent (or opponents! Imagine a large player count game) wasn't the intention here.

[LordVenoc]

Let's go to initial testing!

COMPETITIVE REVIEW BOARD CHECKLIST

Spoiler Alert!

Efficiency- Check to see if your design is providing armies with turns/moves/etc. to a degree that would make it difficult or impossible for an opponent to keep up with your output.

1. Does your design allow itself or figures to move/attack/take a turn/etc. instead of/in addition to your normal turn for revealing an Order Marker? Is it granting these benefits to too broad a range of units? Does it combine with other powers to create overly long or powerful chains of actions?

Nope

2. Does your design allow you to take actions during an opponent's turn? Can it combine with other powers to create tediously long reactions to enemy actions or a restrictive environment?

Yes, can cancel 1 attack once.

3. Does your design allow you to rearrange your Order Markers or otherwise bypass the costs of Order Marker requirements on the special powers of other figures?

Yes, can move your markers to him when you bring him in.

4. Is your design doing anything outside of a player's turn, at the start or end of the round? Is the effect too powerful by itself or when combined with other powers?

Nope.

5. Does your design have any powers that trigger anytime it moves as opposed to only when it moves normally on its turn? Will it be too efficient when combined with figures that grant extra moves to figures?

Nope.

6. Is your design adding or subtracting from initiative rolls? Will it pair too easily with other figures that alter initiative or have powers triggering on the results of initiative rolls?

Nope.

Potency- Check to see if your design is wounding/removing/etc. enemy figures, increasing the chances of other figures in your army doing so, or otherwise directly effecting the number of figures available to players to a degree that would make it difficult or impossible for an opponent to recover from.

1. Does your design have a chance to inflict wounds or destroy figures? Is it getting these chances too frequently or having to high a chance of success? Is the power balanced against expensive targets that can cause a massive swing in the game when destroyed?

Lightning of Zeus is one to keep an eye on for autowounding potential.

2. Is your design adding to the stats or 20-sided die rolls of other figures in your army? Is it a boosting a broad enough range of units effectively enough to become a 'mandatory' draft or inhibit future design space? Can it be combined with other boosts too easily?

Nope.

3. Will your design benefit from stat boosts or other enhancement to an overpowering degree? Will it restrict future growth within its faction or point cost by limiting available boosts to others?

Not especially, Lightning of Zeus is the marquee here and stat boosts don't really help it.

4. Does your design take control of enemy figures permanently or temporarily? Is it too difficult to for your opponent to regain control of their figure or recover from the losing the figure? Does the method of taking control expose the enemy figure to the powers of other figures in your army that can easily destroy it?

Nope.

5. Can your design heal itself or others or revive itself or others? Is it doing so in a way that an opponent cannot hope to overcome in certain scenarios?

Nope.

6. Does your design place enemy figures on its card or otherwise have an unconventional method of temporarily removing enemy figures from play? Will it guarantee your victory against a single remaining enemy figure?

Nope.

Chicanery- Check to see if your design is preventing your opponent from taking actions with too much ease or is otherwise causing negative play experience through tactics that make your opponent feel you're 'not playing fair'

1. Does your design restrict the movement of enemy figures, or allow you to move enemy figures? Can it do so in a way that results in an unwinnable scenario for your opponent if they are down to one figure, posses only figures with a range of 1, etc.? Can your design easily combine with other figures to greatly impede enemy figures or otherwise gain an excessive advantage?

Nope.

2. Does your design effect/change the placement of an enemy's Order Markers, or remove their Order Markers entirely? Can it force Order Markers to go onto cards that have no figures on the battlefield? Can your design easily combine with other figures to completely dictate the placement of an enemy's Order Markers or remove all of their Order Markers?

Nope.

3. Does your design inhibit your opponent from attacking your figures or make attacking a losing proposition? Are there scenarios or combinations that make your opponent totally unable to harm your figures through attacking?

Stops 1 attack, but that's it.

4. Does your design directly negate the powers of enemy figures or otherwise ignore them in a way that can completely disrupt the opponent's strategy or leave them feeling like they are stuck playing figures without special powers?

Can "ignore" wound ignoring powers, so to speak.

5. Does your design become overly powerful in a podded group of figures, or provide significant benefit to your army without leaving your Start Zone?

Nope.

6. You can attack your own figures in Heroscape, does your design have any powers that will trigger off of doing so or otherwise wounding/destroying your own figures? Is this intentional on your part? Will the design be too efficient or potent when doing so?

Nope.

CONSISTENCY CHECKLIST (SHORT FORM)

Spoiler Alert!

Consistency Concerns
Name and Identity
Verify character is named in a way that is clear, accurate and feels consistent with the way other characters are named.

Yep.

Uniqueness and Type
Verify that the power text reflects the listed uniqueness and type, that the uniqueness fits the character, and that squad size is listed for squads.

Yep.

Left Box
If the character's species, class or personality is reused, verify that the character feels thematically consistent with other figures that have that species, class or personality. If they are not reused, verify that there is no pre-existing species, class or personality that would make more sense.

All reuses.

Size and Height
Verify that the listed size and height are accurate. Standing the mini up next to a stack of tiles, and a few other minis of various sizes, is encouraged.

Yep.

Super Strength and Flying
Verify that these special powers are present if they make sense, and not if they don't.


Yep.

New Powers - Names
Verify that any new powers are not using power names identical to, or very similar to, pre-existing powers. Verify that any new powers are actually new and not old powers with new names.

2 New powers. First cribs language from similar power on Raiden.

New Powers - Effects
Verify that the effect and timing of all new powers is clear. Verify that any logical immunities, benefits, or weaknesses (whether those be necessary for thematic or mechanical reasons) are implemented: consider whether defensive powers that work against normal attacks should also work against special attacks, whether or not a power has an elemental component that some figures should resist, and whether or not unliving figures (such as Undead and Androids) should be affected.

Yep.

Reused Powers
Verify that the design is reusing powers in place of creating new ones, where reused powers could implement the same theme and mechanics with no differences or only trivial differences. Verify that any reused powers have the correct text.

Reuse of Heroic Duty

Power Level
Verify that the character's movement, attack, range, and defense (in conjunction with any special powers that enhance those stats) feel consistent with the capabilities of characters with analogous powers and abilities. Verify that the character falls into a similar point range to characters with comparative powers and abilities.

Feels in the Superman/Shazam Mashup range.

[MrNobody]

Yea

[Lord Pyre]

Yea

[Tornado]

Yea

[Arch-vile]

Lightning of Zeus is pretty brutal against dodgy guys like Flash or Nightwing. Worth seeing how he feels against those types of figures. Yea

[LordVenoc]

This passes.

Originally Posted by Arch-vile

Lightning of Zeus is pretty brutal against dodgy guys like Flash or Nightwing. Worth seeing how he feels against those types of figures. Yea

Actually its a good point to make that the language on these two is different. I'd wager as is Lightning of Zeus doesn't work on Nightwing "One shield will block all damage" but potentially could on Flash "Flash takes no damage".

[tcglkn]

I agree, one shield blocking it all is different than ignoring the wounds.

[LordVenoc]

Yeah the distinction there will be important to be tracking and note throughout with Lightning of Zeus. Thinking of starting him at least at 410. Stats are comparable to Superman I, but this is a more offense forward approach, whereas Superman I leans toward defense. Open to thoughts or opinions there though.