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Old October 31st, 2015, 05:07 PM
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Re: The Book of Martian Manhunter (II) (Public PT)

Thanks, ZJ! Much appreciated.

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Re: The Book of Martian Manhunter (II) (Public PT)

C3G STANDARD PLAYTEST FEEDBACK FORM

NAME OF THE PLAYTEST UNIT: Martian Manhunter

Army Test
Map: Island Plane Crash
Units: Martian Manhunter (420), Nite-Owl (130), Scarlet Spider (245), Echo (130), Punisher (190), Hit-Girl (135), Catgirl (60), Robin (Damian, 80) (1,390) VS Mr. Fantastic (235), Invisible Woman (215), Human Torch (225), The Thing (325), Silver Surfer (400) (1,400)
Unit Summary:
Damage:
5 wounds to Mister Fantastic, 3 to Surfer, 1 to Thing, 3 to Torch.
JLoA: 5 markers placed.
Telepathic League Link: 4 double turns taken, activated himself 3 of those times. Very useful.
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Army Test
Map: Island Plane Crash
Units: Martian Manhunter (420), Nite-Owl (130), Scarlet Spider (245), Echo (130), Punisher (190), Hit-Girl (135), Catgirl (60), Robin (Damian, 80) (1,390) VS Mr. Fantastic (235), Invisible Woman (215), Human Torch (225), The Thing (325), Silver Surfer (400) (1,400)
Unit Summary:
Damage:
1 wound on Mister Fantastic,
JLoA: 5 markers placed.
Telepathic League Link: 2 double turns taken, activated himself once. Semi-useful.
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Army Test
Map: Island Plane Crash
Units: Martian Manhunter (420), Thor (430), Beta Ray Bill (420), Punisher (190), Nite-Owl (130) (1,590) VS Ms Marvel (350), Captain America (240), Bucky (60), Valkyrie (350), Booster Gold (290), Doctor Strange (300) (1,590)
Unit Summary:
Damage:
2 wounds to Valkyrie, 1 to Doctor Strange.
JLoA: 4 markers placed.
Telepathic League Link: 4 double turns taken, twice activated himself.
Spoiler Alert!

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THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT'S COST, BALANCE, & DRAFTABILITY: Two losses here, one of them big, but the third game really should have gone to the JLA. I also played him at slightly lower costs than some of the other testers, and he will definitely shine at higher costs. He’s still very useful in the 1400-1600 range, and I could see him being very good closer to 2000. Both of his games were against armies with possible multiple-activations from high-cost figures and I would say he holds his own against them fairly well. His stats and Density Control also give him lots of play as a fighter.

GENERAL THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT: I actually enjoyed playing him more than I thought I would. Even at the costs I played him at, his Mind Link was extremely useful, and army building with him is an interesting challenge. A very good start to the JLA.

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Re: The Book of Martian Manhunter (II) (Public PT)

Looking good here. I really like how you ran a rematch and the results were flipped.
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Re: The Book of Martian Manhunter (II) (Public PT)

Great tests as usual TB. Looking good.

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Re: The Book of Martian Manhunter (II) (Public PT)

Sounds like we're good to go with what's in the SP?

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Re: The Book of Martian Manhunter (II) (Public PT)

Before I call for a vote, what do people think about releasing him at 410 instead of 420? Looking at all the tests, he went 2-7 for his W/L record. That's over several different point values, ranging from 1,000-2,500. Is that a concern, or do we feel that's ok?

Makes no difference to me, but I don't want to release him at 420 if it turns out he's over costed down the road, and we had the results somewhat showing that. If that's not the case here, and we feel comfortable as is, I'm cool with it.
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Old November 1st, 2015, 05:44 PM
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Re: The Book of Martian Manhunter (II) (Public PT)

From my tests, I don't think he'd feel broken at 410 or overcosted at 420. But when you're playing at 1500+, 10 points isn't a huge difference.

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Re: The Book of Martian Manhunter (II) (Public PT)

A lot of the losses were pretty close (though a couple were major defeats), and he is the start of a faction. 10 points isn't a big difference once you're 400+ though, so I'm good either way.

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Re: The Book of Martian Manhunter (II) (Public PT)

I'd definitely advise going slightly higher with this one - it's better to have that cushion here rather than on future units in his synergy web.
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Re: The Book of Martian Manhunter (II) (Public PT)

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I'd definitely advise going slightly higher with this one - it's better to have that cushion here rather than on future units in his synergy web.
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Re: The Book of Martian Manhunter (II) (Public PT)

Ok, sounds good.

I propose a vote to move to Final Editing at 420.
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Re: The Book of Martian Manhunter (II) (Vote for Final Editi

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