The Book of Ch'od

[Karat]

Yea

[Zettian Juggernaut]

Originally Posted by Zettian Juggernaut

SP updated, with that I propose we move to Initial Playtesting.

VOTES:
IAmBatman - Yea
@johnny139 -
Karat - Yea
SirGalahad - Yea
TrollBrute - Yea
Viegon - Yea

Just down to johnny or 23 hours.

[johnny139]

Yea

[Zettian Juggernaut]

This passes.

[Dysole]

COMPETITIVE REVIEW BOARD CHECKLIST

Competitive Concerns
Does the design offer worrisome Order marker movement or efficiency? No.

Does the design offer superior Auto wounding? No.

Does the design cause the prevention of abilities (Blob, Polaris, Meteorite)? No.

Does the design move other figures? Drop Team is kind of this but it's not a problem on Fury.

Does the design boost other figures (outside of a narrowly defined set)? No.

Does the design have one or more excellent defensive powers? Tough which gives him Rhino like durability. He's fine.

Does the design auto destroy or take control of other figures in a way that unbalances the design? No.

Does the design have any other concerns? No.

Summary of Any Competitive Concerns/Suggestions for Changes: Nothing fishy here.

~Dysole, getting in a pun

[Zettian Juggernaut]

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NAME OF THE PLAYTESTING UNIT (Ch'od)

Version used:

Spoiler Alert!

NAME = CH'OD

SPECIES = SAURID
UNIQUENESS = UNIQUE HERO
CLASS = PIRATE
PERSONALITY = DEVOUT

SIZE/HEIGHT = MEDIUM 5

LIFE = 5

MOVE = 5
RANGE = 1
ATTACK = 6
DEFENSE = 5

POINTS = 215

STARJAMMER DROP TEAM
At the start of the game, choose up to 3 other Pirate Heroes in your Army. The chosen Heroes and Ch'od are the Starjammer Drop Team. The Drop Team does not start the game on the battlefield. Once per game, before initiative is rolled, you may choose an empty space on the battlefield. Place the Drop Team on that or any space within 1 space. You cannot place them adjacent to any opponent's figures.

WATER STRENGTH 1
Ch'od does not stop his movement when entering a water space. Add 1 die to Ch'od's attack and defense while he is on a water space.

TOUGH
When rolling defense dice against normal attack, Ch'od always adds one automatic shield to whatever is rolled.

SUPER STRENGTH

Army Test 1
Unit Sum-up:
Damage:
Normal Attack: 1 wound to Invisible Woman.
Power Usage:
Water Strength:
- Added 0 attack dice.
- Added 0 defence dice.
Map: Swamp Lab (no Glyphs).
Units: Army 1: Ch'od (215), Corsair (180), Korvus (270), Hepzibah (140), Raza Longknife (195) (1,000) VS Army 2: Mr. Fantastic (235), Invisible Woman (215), Human Torch (Johnny Storm, 225), Thing (325) (1,000)

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(Ch'od, Corsair, Raza, and Krovus are the Drop team) First Round:
Army 1’s OMs: 3 on Corsair and 1 on Raza.
Army 2’s OMs: 3 on Mr. Fantastic and 1 on Thing.
(Drop Team drops a little out of the opponent's base) Initiative goes to Army 2.
Round Sum-up: Korvus, Raza, and Torch fall; Corsair takes 3 wounds, Ch'od takes 4 wounds, and Mr. Fantastic takes 4 wounds.

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ARMY TWO: Torch moves over and takes 2 wounds from disengagement to put 1 wound both Ch'od and Korvus then puts 1 wound on Corsair; Mr. Fantastic moves up and fails to do damage.
ARMY ONE: Corsair fails to put a wound on Mr. Fantastic.
ARMY TWO: Torch moves over and takes 2 disengagement wounds to put 1 wound on both Raza and Korvus, then uses Supernova to put 2 wounds on Corsair, Raza, Korvus, and 3 wounds to Ch'od; Mr. Fantastic finishes off Korvus.
ARMY ONE: Corsair finishes off Torch; Raza moves over and puts 4 wounds on Mr. Fantastic.
ARMY TWO: Mr. Fantastic moves back into Invisible Woman's range and finishes off Raza.
ARMY ONE: Corsair fails to wound Mr. Fantastic.

Second Round:
Army 1’s OMs: 2 on Corsair, 1 on Ch'od, and 1 on Hepzibah.
Army 2’s OMs: 3 on Mr. Fantastic and 1 on Thing.
Initiative goes to Army 1.
Round Sum-up: Mr. Fantastic and Ch'od fall; Invisible Woman takes 1 wound.

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ARMY ONE: Corsair finishes off Mr. Fantastic; Ch'od moves over and puts 1 wound Invisible Woman.
ARMY TWO: OM lost.
ARMY ONE: Corsair moves down and fails to wound Thing.
ARMY TWO: OM lost.
ARMY ONE: Hepzibah moves out.
ARMY TWO: Thing moves over and finishes off Ch'od.

Third Round:
Army 1’s OMs: 2 on both Corsair and Hepzibah.
Army 2’s OMs: 3 on Thing and 1 on Invisible Woman.
Initiative goes to Army 1.
Round Sum-up: Corsair and Hepzibah fall; Invisible Woman takes 2 wounds.

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ARMY ONE: Corsair moves over and fails to wound Invisible Woman.
ARMY TWO: Thing finishes off Corsair.
ARMY ONE: Hepzibah moves over and puts 1 wound on Invisible Woman.
ARMY TWO: Thing moves over and cannot attack due to Pheromone Distraction.
ARMY ONE: Hepzibah takes a disengagement (no wound) to move away from Thing and put 1 wound on Invisible Woman.
ARMY TWO: Thing moves over and finishes off Hepzibah.

Army 2 wins with 2 life Invisible Woman and unwound Thing.

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Army Test 2
Unit Sum-up:
Damage:
Normal Attack: 3 wounds to Knockout.
Power Usage:
Water Strength:
- Added 0 attack dice.
- Added 0 defence dice.
Map: Conflict Chernobyl (no Glyphs).
Units: Army 1: Ch'od (215), Corsair (180), Korvus (270), Hepzibah (140), Raza Longknife (195) (1,000) VS Army 2: Catman (170), Scandal Savage (200), Knockout (290), Bane (190), Deadshot (150) (1,000)

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(Ch'od, Corsair, Korvus, and Raza are the Drop Team; Catman chooses Corsair for Big Game Tracker) First Round:
Army 1’s OMs: 3 on Corsair and 1 on Hepzibah.
Army 2’s OMs: 2 on Catman, 1 on Bane, and 1 on Deadshot.
(Drop Team drop in the middle of the map) Initiative goes to Army 2.
Round Sum-up: Catman falls; Bane takes 1 wound and Korvus takes 3 wounds.

Spoiler Alert!

ARMY TWO: Bane moves out.
ARMY ONE: Corsair puts 1 wound on Bane with his SA and moves back; Korvus moves over and puts 3 wounds on Catman.
ARMY TWO: Deadshot moves up and fails to wound Korvus.
ARMY ONE: Corsair moves over and puts 2 wounds on Catman with his SA, then moves back; Korvus puts 3 mores wounds on Catman (leaving him with 1 life).
ARMY TWO: Catman puts 2 wounds on Korvus; Knockout moves lower than Korvus and swaps places, then puts 1 wound on him.
ARMY ONE: Corsair moves over and finishes off Catman; Ch'od moves over and fails to wound Knockout.

Second Round:
Army 1’s OMs: 3 on Corsair and 1 on Raza.
Army 2’s OMs: 1 on Knockout, Scandal Savage, Deadshot, and Bane.
Initiative goes to Army 1.
Round Sum-up: Corsair takes 1 wound, Bane takes 2 wounds, Knockout takes 2 wounds, Deadshot takes 2 wounds, and Raza takes 1 wound, but heals up with Cybernetic Repair.

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ARMY ONE: Corsair fails to wound Bane.
ARMY TWO: Bane moves a space and puts 1 wound on Corsair.
ARMY ONE: Corsair puts 1 wound on Bane; Ch'od puts 2 wounds on Knockout.
ARMY TWO: Scandal Field Commander to move Deadshot adjacent to Bane and swap Knockout's and Deadshot's OMs, then she fails to wound Korvus.
ARMY ONE: Corsair puts 1 wound on Bane; Raza moves down and puts 2 wounds on Deadshot.
ARMY TWO: Deadshot puts 1 wound on Raza.

Third Round:
Army 1’s OMs: 3 on Corsair and 1 on Raza.
Army 2’s OMs: 1 on Knockout, Scandal Savage, Deadshot, and Bane.
Initiative goes to Army 1.
Round Sum-up: Bane, Deadshot, and Korvus fall; Scandal takes 2 wounds.

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ARMY ONE: Corsair puts 2 wounds on Bane; Raza finishes off Bane.
ARMY TWO: OM lost.
ARMY ONE: Corsair finishes off Deadshot with his SA who failed to roll a shield; Raza moves over and puts 2 wounds on Scandal.
ARMY TWO: Scandal ptus 1 wound on Korvus.
ARMY ONE: Corsair moves over and fails to do damage.
ARMY TWO: Knockout finishes off Korvus.

Fourth Round:
Army 1’s OMs: 3 on Corsair and 1 on Raza.
Army 2’s OMs: 2 on both Scandal and Knockout.
Initiative goes to Army 1.
Round Sum-up: Scandal falls; Knockout takes 2 wounds and Ch'od takes 4 wounds.

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ARMY ONE: Corsair puts 1 wound on Scandal and moves back; Raza finishes off Scandal.
ARMY TWO: OM lsot.
ARMY ONE: Corsair moves down and puts 1 wound on Knockout who failed to roll a shield, then moves back; Ch'od puts 1 wound on Knockout.
ARMY TWO: Knockout moves down and swaps with Ch'od, then puts 2 wounds on Ch'od.
ARMY ONE: Corsair fails to wound Knockout.
ARMY TWO: Knockout outs 2 wounds on Ch'od.

Fifth Round:
Army 1’s OMs: 3 on Corsair and 1 on Raza.
Army 2’s OMs: all on Knockout.
Initiative goes to Army 2.
Round Sum-up: Ch'od and Knockout fall; Raza takes 2 wounds.

Spoiler Alert!

ARMY TWO: Knockout finishes off Ch'od.
ARMY ONE: Corsair fails to wound Knockout.
ARMY TWO: Knockout moves down and puts 2 wounds on Raza.
ARMY ONE: Corsair finishes off Knockout.

Army 1 wins with 3 life Corsair, 3 life Raza Longknife, and unwounded Hepzibah.

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Army Test 3
Unit Sum-up:
Damage:
Normal Attack: 4 wounds to Superboy.
Power Usage:
Water Strength:
- Added 0 attack dice.
- Added 0 defence dice.
Map: Conflict Chernobyl (no Glyphs).
Units: Army 1: Ch'od (215), Corsair (180), Korvus (270), Raza Longknife (195) (860) VS Army 2: Cosmic Boy (260), Saturn Girl (220), Superboy (Kal-El, 330), Matter-Eater Lad (60) (870)

Spoiler Alert!

(Ch'od, Corsair, Korvus, and Raza are the Drop Team) First Round:
Army 1’s OMs: 3 on Corsair and 1 on Raza.
Army 2’s OMs: 2 on Superboy, 1 on Cosmic Boy, and 1 on Saturn Girl.
(Drop Team drop on the side of the map near a ruin) Initiative goes to Army 1.
Round Sum-up: Cosmic Boy (who failed all 3 Magnetic Throw Defense rolls), Saturn Girl, and Matter-Eater Lad fall; Korvus takes 3 wounds and Super takes 2 wounds.

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ARMY ONE: Corsair moves down and puts 1 wound on Matter-Eater Lad, then moves back; Korvus moves down and uses his SA to put 3 wounds on Cosmic Boy, 2 wounds on Saturn Girl, 1 wound on Superboy, and 3 wounds on Matter-Eater Lad.
ARMY TWO: Superboy puts 2 wounds on Korvus; Cosmic Boy moves over and fails to wound Korvus.
ARMY ONE: Corsair fails to wound Cosmic Boy.
ARMY TWO: Superboy puts 1 wound on Korvus with Focused heat Vision and fails to wound him with his Normal Attack; Cosmic Boy fails to wound Korvus.
ARMY ONE: Corsair finishes off Cosmic Boy; Korvus finishes off Saturn Girl and Matter-Eater Lad, and puts 1 wound on Superboy with his SA.
ARMY TWO: OM lost.

Second Round:
Army 1’s OMs: 2 on both Corsair and Ch'od.
Army 2’s OMs: all on Superboy.
Initiative goes to Army 1.
Round Sum-up: Korvus falls; Superboy takes 1 wound.

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ARMY ONE: Corsair fails to wound Superboy
ARMY TWO: Superboy fails to finishes Korvus.
ARMY ONE: Ch'od moves over.
ARMY TWO: Superboy fails again to wound Korvus.
ARMY ONE: Ch'od moves over and puts 1 wound on Superboy.
ARMY TWO: Superboy finishes off Korvus.

Third Round:
Army 1’s OMs: 2 on Ch'od, 1 Corsair, and 1 on Raza.
Army 2’s OMs: all Superboy.
Initiative goes to Army 1.
ARMY ONE: Ch'od finishes off Superboy.

Army 1 wins with unwounded Corsair, unwounded Ch'od, and unwounded Raza Longknife.

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Army Test 4
Unit Sum-up:
Damage:
Normal Attack: killed 2 Scouts and 1 Soldier; 1 wound to Ronan.
Power Usage:
Water Strength:
- Added 3 attack dice.
- Added 4 defence dice.
Map: Conflict Chernobyl (no Glyphs).
Units: Army 1: Ch'od (215), Corsair (180), Korvus Rook'Shir (270), Raza Longknife (195) (860) VS Army 2: Kree Soldier x10 (300), Kree Scout x5 (200), Ronan (360) (860)

Spoiler Alert!

(h'od, Corsair, Korvus, and Raza are the Drop Team; Ronan Accuses Corsair) First Round:
Army 1’s OMs: 3 on Corsair and 1 on Raza.
Army 2’s OMs: 3 on Scouts and 1 on Ronan.
(Drop Team drop on the side of the map near a ruin) Initiative goes to Army 2.
Round Sum-up: 8 Soldiers, 3 Scouts, and Corsair fall; Ronan takes 1 wound.

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ARMY TWO: Scout moves out and fails to wound Corsair; Kree Teleportation moves out Ronan and another Scout who fails to wound Corsair.
ARMY ONE: Corsair moves down and kills a Soldier with his SA, then moves back up; Korvus moves over and uses his SA to kill 4 Soldiers and 3 Scouts.
ARMY TWO: Scout fails to wound Corsair; Ronan moves over and uses his SA to push Corsair and Ch'od lower, then puts 3 wounds on Corsair.
ARMY ONE: Corsair moves up and puts 1 wound on Ronan; Korvus moves over and kills 3 more Soldiers.
ARMY TWO: Scout moves over and fails to wound Korvus; Ronan finishes off Corsair.
ARMY ONE: OM lost.

Second Round:
Army 1’s OMs: 2 on Raza, 1 on Ch'od, and 1 on Korvus.
Army 2’s OMs: 2 on both Scouts and Ronan.
(Ronan Accuses Ch'od) Initiative goes to Army 2.
Round Sum-up: 1 Soldier fall; Korvus takes 1 wound, Ronan takes 3 wounds, and Raza takes 3 wounds, but heals 1.

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ARMY TWO: Scout moves up and puts 2 wounds on Raza; Ronan fails to wound Ch'od.
ARMY ONE: Raza moves over and puts 2 wounds on Ronan.
ARMY TWO: Scout puts 1 wound on Raza; Ronan fails again to wound Ch'od.
ARMY ONE: Ch'od moves a space and puts 1 wound on Ronan.
ARMY TWO: Ronan fails again to wound Ch'od; 2 Soldiers put 1 wound on Korvus.
ARMY ONE: Korvus kills a Soldier.

Third Round:
Army 1’s OMs: 2 on both Raza and Ch'od.
Army 2’s OMs: 3 on Ronan and 1 on Scouts.
Initiative goes to Army 2.
Round Sum-up: Ronan and 2 Scouts fall; Ch'od takes 3 wounds and Raza heals 1 wound.

Spoiler Alert!

ARMY TWO: Ronan puts 3 wounds on Ch'od; last Soldier fails to wound Korvus.
ARMY ONE: Raza moves up and finishes off Ronan.
ARMY TWO: OM lost.
ARMY ONE: Ch'od kills a Scout.
ARMY TWO: last Scout Teleports the last Soldier over and fails to do damage.
ARMY ONE: Ch'od moves over and kills the last Scout.

Fourth Round:
Army 1’s OMs: 2 on both Ch'od and Raza.
Army 2’s OMs: all on the Soldier.
Initiative goes to Army 2.
ARMY TWO: last Soldier fails to roll a skull.
ARMY ONE: Ch'od moves up and finishes off the last Soldier.

Army 1 wins with 2 life Ch'od, 4 life Korvus Rook'Shir, and 4 life Raza Longknife.

THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT'S COST, BALANCE, & DRAFTABILITY: I'm feeling okay with Ch'od points, even though he only made up his points once offensively, Starjammer Drop Team is really hopeful for the Starjammer. The only thing worrying me right now is start-zone bombing with Korvus, though I don't think it'll turn out to be any stronger than anything Nick Fury can do with Agents.

GENERAL THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT: Starjammers play really well now, dropping near the enemy start-zone is pretty big for Corsair, since you don't have to spend turn moving your figures up and you can use them to tie your opponent down some so it's harder for them to take out Corsair. Overall, I'm really liking how the Starjammers turned out.

[TrollBrute]

That's three pretty big wins against solid teams and only one loss coming against a team that is a tough match-up for them. Drop team really seems to help them out.

I guess I'm not against continuing testing at 215, but it seems low right now.

[Zettian Juggernaut]

Well, the third game luck was against Legionnaires big time, Cosmic Boy never hit a Magnetic Throw Defense. And the fourth game, Korvus just destroyed the Kree, which isn't that surprising when you can hit 5-7 figures.

[IAmBatman]

Agreed that he's seeming a tad undercosted or overpowered right now. I'd probably want to bump him up 10 points or find a slight tweak to dial him back before moving to playtesting.

[dok]

Drop team is definitely strong, but I don't think the Korvus bomb is really any worse than Nick Fury's Banshee bomb. I may be biased since I'm a big sucker for this sort of power.

[japes]

Originally Posted by IAmBatman

Agreed that he's seeming a tad undercosted or overpowered right now. I'd probably want to bump him up 10 points or find a slight tweak to dial him back before moving to playtesting.

Hopefully we can find a way to keep him at 215 for the 1000 point army.

[IAmBatman]

Originally Posted by dok

Drop team is definitely strong, but I don't think the Korvus bomb is really any worse than Nick Fury's Banshee bomb. I may be biased since I'm a big sucker for this sort of power.

dok, any thoughts on what the initial playtest say about where his cost should be? Is he safe moving forward at 215, or do you think we should make adjustments if we want to keep him at that cost?