The Playgrounds of Valhalla

[ollie]

Originally Posted by kolakoski

You read the variable start zone blog rather than the musings one .

Oops. You meant this one, right?

I'm not sure about the cave aspect of the plan. My instinct is that that addition makes it too different. Switching in some dungeon and shadow tiles sounds good though. Do you have it virtualscaped?

[ollie]

OK, I've done as much map-thread-trawling in search of playgrounds as I have the inclination to do. If there's a map that is not yet in the second post then please post it so it can be added. Thanks!

[Swamper]

I'm a little hesitant to do this, as I'm not sure exactly what you're looking for, but I'd like to nominate my Aztec Temple. http://www.heroscapers.com/community...t=18213&page=3

[stubobj]

Originally Posted by Swamper

I'm a little hesitant to do this, as I'm not sure exactly what you're looking for, but I'd like to nominate my Aztec Temple. http://www.heroscapers.com/community...t=18213&page=3

Correct me if Im wrong but that appears to be SotM and 2xRttFF. If it is that is eligible for BoV nomination and not exactly what Ollie is looking for here. Also just a point if I understand Ollie correctly, You dont need to nominate a map for this thread. If it is outside the BoV regulations yet is still Tournament worthy then this is the spot for it.

[Swamper]

I think it's actually 3 RTTFF. And I thought that the BoV wouldn't accept it because it may not be an efficient use of the tiles, with the big pyramid taking all of the road tiles. Oh well, you can take it or leave it. I was just sticking it up there.

[rednax]

Would a map that had a specific special rule be allowed here? For one of the maps I've made it, it allows double-spacers to climb ladders. Or another example might be Gamebear's Marpesia's Glory, which doesn't/isn't supposed to allow figures on top of castle walls.

[Sujoah]

Originally Posted by rednax

Or another example might be Gamebear's Marpesia's Glory, which doesn't/isn't supposed to allow figures on top of castle walls.

Something you could do for Marpesia's Glory would just be to remove the tops entirely. That's kind of the point of this thread - to have good maps that can't be in the BoV for some reason.

[ollie]

Originally Posted by Swamper

I think it's actually 3 RTTFF. And I thought that the BoV wouldn't accept it because it may not be an efficient use of the tiles, with the big pyramid taking all of the road tiles. Oh well, you can take it or leave it. I was just sticking it up there.

The link you gave sends me to the wrong place I think (because of different page settings). I've looked at your thread though and a couple look like they might qualify as playgrounds. I don't see any build instructions anywhere---to be useful to a TD they are essential. Startzones too.

[ollie]

Originally Posted by rednax

Would a map that had a specific special rule be allowed here? For one of the maps I've made it, it allows double-spacers to climb ladders. Or another example might be Gamebear's Marpesia's Glory, which doesn't/isn't supposed to allow figures on top of castle walls.

Good call on Marpesia's Glory---I've added it.

Allowing double-spacers to climb ladders strikes me as too much of a rule-break---Nilfheim perched on a ladder is not going to be very stable. This is all subjective though: if TDs would be happy using a map with such a rule then it should be added. As far as eligibility goes, I guess I'm aiming for a similar model to the power rankings. I decide, but based in large part on what you all think.

[Griffin]

You know, I think it would be very cool to design a map that uses only the leftover terrain pieces from the sets required from 5 tournament maps.

So a TD could build 5 tourney maps, and then take all of the leftover terrain from those terrain sets that were required and build another map. Waste not, want not.

I am pretty busy with all things C3G related, but I may try to accomplish this at some point. Anyone can feel free, or better yet, take this as a challenge to do so yourself. I think this would be a great contribution to TDs, and certainly worthy of some +rep.

Good luck.

[rednax]

Originally Posted by ollie

Good call on Marpesia's Glory---I've added it.

Allowing double-spacers to climb ladders strikes me as too much of a rule-break---Nilfheim perched on a ladder is not going to be very stable. This is all subjective though: if TDs would be happy using a map with such a rule then it should be added. As far as eligibility goes, I guess I'm aiming for a similar model to the power rankings. I decide, but based in large part on what you all think.

I agree with you whole-heartedly. Nifheim on ladder is a little weird. That I'd just throw it out there, just in case. I mean you never know, right?

[ollie]

Here's a post from Dok that those of you who don't religiously follow my map thread (and why don't you? ) won't have seen. It comments on what extra terrain pieces might be good to use if you're thinking about making a buddy map.

Originally Posted by dok

While I'm not sure I like FoF, the map, I love the idea of complementary maps that you've laid out here. I realized recently that if you have the material for "Jungle Helix", plus another RotV set, you can make either "Mole Hills" or "Ruins of Pine Tree Marsh". To me, this becomes a pretty solid selling point for the map.

Setting aside assorted remaining terrain tiles, here's a quick look at what gets left out of BoV maps:

Badru Valley: RotV ruins.

Broken Skyline: RttFF big tree and 1 small tree, 13 FotA columns.

Embattled Fen: Hive and FotA columns.

Mole Hills: RttFF roads and big tree.

Road Rampage: RttFF big tree.

Ruins of Pine Tree Marsh: RttFF roads.

Swamp Thing: Hive and RttFF big tree.

Looks like there's lots of opportunities for maps that use extra RttFF big trees. How about a SOTM/RttFF map that uses two hives and two big trees, to be paired with Swamp Thing? That's 20 hexes worth of LOS-blockers - 24 if you use the small trees, too.

EDIT: I VS'ed a quick version of the above map (SotM + RttFF + big tree + hive). It was perfectly playable, had plenty of LoS blockers, was rotationally symmetric... and was really boring. I think it needs either more roads (for a flash fire/highways and dieways feel) or no roads at all.