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C3G Legacy Library This is the archive for all the designs released in the original era of C3G. Feel free to post any figure specific questions in their individual books. |
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Re: The Book of D.Va (Pilot) - Initial Playtesting
I guess I’m not entirely sure that the Mech design doesn’t feel “tanky” as-is. It’s got the Life and Defense of most Iron Men plus a pretty awesome defensive power. The defensive power can also protect allies, forcing the enemy to focus on her first - just like a true tank in a video game. She’s not lasting as long as Superman, but that’s why she costs 235 point.
Like hypothetically, if we went back in and edited the Mech design, we’d probably have to give her a decent drop in offense if we wanted to up her defensive game, and I don’t think that’s an exciting gameplay change. That said, I don’t think putting the Pilot at 6 defense is going to help if you’re personally feeling like the Mech isn’t tanky enough in comparison. That does feel like rubbing salt in the wound a bit. |
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Re: The Book of D.Va (Pilot) - Initial Playtesting
I guess I'll also propose something like this, which kinda feels like what we had in the beginning?
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#63
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Re: The Book of D.Va (Pilot) - Initial Playtesting
Sorry, dropping in late without having follow the rest, but trying to catch up by responding to Nobody's latest post here:
My biggest question is on the trigger for the repair power. Why does attacking an opponent's figure result in repair to the mech? Would that make more sense as an instead of moving normally type of trigger? I'm also not following why she'd switch when she's destroyed. If the mech is destroyed, then she pops out, then she's destroyed, the mech comes back? Seems weird that the first power goes to 1 Life remaining and the last power goes to 2 Life remaining. Being consistent with those would reduce the cognitive load, IMO. C3G can be played with official Heroscape, but it's not recommended.
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Re: The Book of D.Va (Pilot) - Initial Playtesting
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Quick question before I try some suggestions: Any reason why the pilot wants the OMs, then before revealing you shift them to the Mech? Feels a bit weird/backwards to me? |
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Re: The Book of D.Va (Pilot) - Initial Playtesting
In the game it's more her buying time for another suit to be dropped in for her.
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Re: The Book of D.Va (Pilot) - Initial Playtesting
Gotcha. That explains the reason she switches when she'd be destroyed too. I didn't realize the suit coming back represented additional suits. Sounds less like repair than replacement, then?
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Re: The Book of D.Va (Pilot) - Initial Playtesting
I could be a little wrong on the them there cause I never dove into the Overwatch lore a ton, but that's how I always though it worked at least.
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Re: The Book of D.Va (Pilot) - Initial Playtesting
Skinderella and I talked about it, we felt like hints in the lore point to the idea that it's the same suit getting repeatedly repaired.
I guess my thing with the "attack = heal" mechanic is that...we're asking the player to make a complex repaint for this design, it feels like the figure should actually have a presence on the battlefield. Giving the Pilot design a reason to be an active participant on the battlefield helps the design a lot I think. (And dealing damage in Overwatch charged your Ultimate move, which is how D.Va gets her mech back, so it makes some sense as a mechanic IMO.) |
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Re: The Book of D.Va (Pilot) - Initial Playtesting
Gotcha. Just wasn't following the theme. Makes sense.
I think my only suggestions on your take, then, MrNobody, are to call the middle power REGENERATION instead of REPAIR and to make the amount of life left parallel on the first and third power (1 or 2). C3G can be played with official Heroscape, but it's not recommended.
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Re: The Book of D.Va (Pilot) - Initial Playtesting
After looking at concerns and the design, I wonder if we can't just tie it to a d20 roll for simplicity. I still think there's something to be said about pilot/support figures being relatively simple. Obviously I'm not really cutting any text here, but I think the mechanics are more streamlined, still keeps the video game theme of her dealing damage to revive the mech, and encourages you to run and gun with her. Also she's good in more generalist builds like stat boosters/rerollers, since they'd help her deal that damage a bit easier.
But I obviously haven't played her. Just some thoughts. Quote:
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Re: The Book of D.Va (Pilot) - Initial Playtesting
Would it be possible to fold Nerf This! into the Pilot power since they are both triggering at relatively the same time? Could allow for maybe a light dodgy power or something to help her feel less like just extra life for the Meka?
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Re: The Book of D.Va (Pilot) - Initial Playtesting
The nice thing about the once per game thing and it happening even when she'd be destroyed is it gives you something to count on and reduces the swinginess (which should also make it easier to cost).
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