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Re: Public Design Workshop
Updated with unblockable. Yeah I just didn't want them too similar to fire ants, but really army ants do just tear through everything they come across, so I thought it would be strong yet realistic to just autowound. A "kill it with fire" tactic should be the best way to approach them.
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In general I'd just really avoid the "recruitment" type angle you were outlining for the Lord of Arachnos power. Like, if he can pull a Magneto (II) and yoink some rando into his web (eh?), that's probably fine, but it feels like an awkward mechanic to bring together a faction that should work out of the box. Mostly preserving the style of thing you're after with Lord of Arachnos but reworking it like I'm talking about, I mean like, on the mooks, something to the tune of: Quote:
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After taking a turn with any Common Insect figure you control, if it moved normally this turn, any Common insects that started it's turn adjacent to that figure, you may move. All figures must end their movement on a space the first figure moved onto this turn. You may not take any additional turns. Something like that. Essentially you'd have a trail of ants. Would I want it to be everything I love...sure...but that's just not realistic so I'm going to focus on finding things that will make me unhappy and work on fixing those. |
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I'm thinking about running Ronin as my 1st LD.
@IAmBatman
helped me a bit getting my thoughts organized. Feedback would be appreciated.
NAME = Ronin SECRET IDENTITY = Clint Barton SPECIES = Human UNIQUENESS = Unique Hero CLASS = Fighter PERSONALITY = Resolute SIZE/HEIGHT = Medium 5 LIFE = 4 MOVE = 6 RANGE = 5 ATTACK = 4 DEFENSE = 5 POINTS = ??? (200 to 210) Nunchuck Onslaught Range 1 Attack 3 When Ronin attacks with Nunchuck Onslaught he may attack any and all figures adjacent to him. If Ronin inflicts a wound with this special attack, he may Stealth Leap and attack with his normal attack. Deadly Slice After attacking an adjacent figure with his normal attack Ronin may attack the same figure one additional time. Stealth Leap 12 Instead of his normal move, Ronin may move up to 3 spaces with Stealth Leap. When moving with Stealth Leap, Ronin has the Flying special power, but may not move up or down more than 12 levels in a single leap, and will not take any leaving engagement attacks when he starts to leap. |
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Ronin's one of those characters that I'm surprised isn't already in C3G. Cool design, I dig the flow of Nunchuck > normal attack > 2nd attack.
Only question is his range, is he supposed to use a bow? Range of 5 seems a little low for that. |
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I probably wouldn't have his class as Fighter. I would assume it would be assassin or ninja, he's not exactly heroic when he's acting as Ronin.
Stealth Leap 12 seems a bit unrealistic for an unenhanced Human. I'd probably go with Acrobatic Leap 6 instead. I just can't buy Hawkeye jumping to the top of a castle wall without any powers. Also find it a tad uninteresting that he just get's 3 melee attacks in a turn even with a Leap in between. I might give him no base range (he's primarily a sword fighter), and change the special attack to represent throwing stars or something and just go with Close Combat Dexterity from the new Black Widow design. That would let him attack, use Acrobatic Leap then attack again. The throwing star attack could be something like Captain America's Shield Throw, but with an attack of 1-2 with skull doubling to represent the piercing aspect of the stars. |
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Yeah, he was a New Avenger, right? (Or was that the Echo version of Ronin?)
The main “gimmick” of Ronin has always been the “who’s behind the mask?” thing, so that might be cool to represent on a card. Like just a random idea that would kind if change the flow of the design, but what if you could choose a SI at the start of the game, and each one gave you a different ability? Clint has range, Echo has counterstrike, Blade can double attack, something like that. No matter what, it’s a cool character I’ll be excited to see. |
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New Avengers Ronin was Daredevil Echo. It was supposed to be DD but the timing of events or something messed up the plans.
If we want to lean into the “who is it” thing, we could have you draft another Fighter in secret that Ronin could swap to at any time. Might be cool, but definitely totally different than what we have here, and I’m good with a Clint version in addition anyway. |
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Echo didn't hold the mantle for very long at all - she passed it off to Clint pretty much as soon as she came back and joined the team. Like, so fast that an Echo-as-Ronin card doesn't really make sense. (Especially with the context that it wasn't supposed to be her in the first place, yeah)
Clint had a longer stint with the Avengers as Ronin, held the mantle through Dark Reign. I've thought about the Ronin-as-a-mystery angle a few times over the years, but honestly I think it's hard to do in a compelling way. Makes more sense to just focus in on Clint I think. |
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