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Re: Online Player Rankings Thread
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(This is what Xorlof was saying in that paragraph about Trueskill, in a way that was a bit less mathy.) There is one gap in the rankings, numerically, that currently dwarfs all the others. (And no, it's not between 1 and 2. TSIYW and I are ranked ridiculously close to one another, actually, and have traded the top spot back and forth a few times just in the last month or so.) |
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One thing that would be interesting is if we could add every known tournament into this too. It would take a lot of compiling and remembering who played who, but it would be an amazing piece of work.
EDIT: Just looked and I am 2-3 in games I actually played against the top 25. Tournament Armies Played - C3VRP - Customs - Trades I'm Krug in the Paradox Keep and Augamo on the Sacred Tundra. |
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Sweetness!
I'm in the top 25. Did not expect that. (It's probably mostly due to beating Kinseth twice ~_^) More incentive to keep trying to win. Whee!
~Dysole, now wanting to try this algorithm out for CoN but knowing that he would probably take one look at it and go "And that is what the who now?" My Twitch Channel where I play Scape and other things My YouTube Channel where the games get uploaded later Dysole's Draft Rankings Map Thread (Not responsible for psychic damage) Customs Battle Reports This sentence is seven words long. This sentence is not seven words long. Last edited by Dysole; July 1st, 2013 at 02:38 AM. Reason: Yep. Yep that's sort of what's happening. I kind of understand but not quite |
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26-5 vs those outside of the top 25. In the "Modern era"(Season 4 and beyond.) I have only lost to 2 players outside of the top 25. Rexmax2 and Hivelord. Have you tried Hexscape? 3D Heroscape Multiplayer Battle program! Looking for a C3V/SOV miniature? Try one of these sites. Last edited by Kinseth; July 1st, 2013 at 09:00 AM. |
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Rankings Against...
I decided to go check myself and see what my W-L was against the non top 25ers. If we count just the tournaments (and not any other fun little stuffs I participate in). 2-5 against the top 10. 2-3 against the top 25. (My W-L is off because ISB and ISB3 were on the same team against me) 5-0 against everyone else. I feel like I end up playing the top players a lot. ~_^
~Dysole, who if he reads the standing correctly for Season 8 means it will likely be happening again My Twitch Channel where I play Scape and other things My YouTube Channel where the games get uploaded later Dysole's Draft Rankings Map Thread (Not responsible for psychic damage) Customs Battle Reports This sentence is seven words long. This sentence is not seven words long. |
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I have the least amount of games played in the top 25. Do I get the quality over quantity award?
I am 3-1 against the top 10. I am 6-3 against the top 25. 9 of my 11 games have been against the top 25 (2-0 against the others) |
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Excellent work on implementing these rankings!
If I understand correctly, each person is represented by a 'skill number' and an approximation range, and players are currently ranked by their lower bound. I'd be curious to see the skill number and approximation ranges then too. Or are they being intentionally withheld? Cheers, C$$ |
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"Intentionally withheld" is maybe a little strong. We are trying to keep things simple in terms of what we're releasing, at least initially.
You can pretty much figure out where people's means and variances are, at least relative to those near them in the rankings, just by looking at the rankings. The players with more games tend to have lower variances, although the more consistent your play is, the quicker your variance drops, as well. So, for example, TSIYW has a higher mean to his ranking than I do, but I have a lower variance, which is why I am (slightly) ahead of him. There are some dynamics in the algorithm that also govern speed of convergence. There's a variable that basically talks about how likely it is that a higher-ranked player defeats a lower-ranked player. The higher that probability is, the faster a player's variance drops (because the algorithm is more confident that each game result reflects playing skill and not just luck or matchup or whatever). We have tuned this variable based on our results so far, but we still have not done a sophisticated optimization of that convergence dynamics. That is in the works. |
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Yes, streaks and tournament wins do not factor extra into the rankings, as those things don't really have anything to do with skill beyond the individual games.
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It's not an accident that six of our tournament winners are in the top 8, and the other two are in the top 20. |
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