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Re: C3V/SoV-inclusive Power Rankings
I can’t speak for dok but in my opinion they’re affected so much by figure limit it’s hard to rank them. If you can get 5 or 6 squads of them, I think they’re definitely an A. But in formats where it limits you to 16 or 18 figures and you can only get 4 squads total, they’re not as much of a powerhouse.
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Something I Saw
Was just glancing at the list. Ravagers and Harqs need to be swapped at the very least.
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Re: C3V/SoV-inclusive Power Rankings
I have been wondering for a bit about how to rank the orc squads against one another. I think blades and deathchasers are fairly close on power to heavies now because of cathar and kuthnak and arrows and brute gruts are pretty good in their own right too. It might be a bit apple to oranges with the brutes but I think the blades and deathchasers might be a smidge better than heavies. That sounds weird to say because in classic the heavies are second only to knights in terms of bonding melee.
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The difference I see in VC-land is actually that you're less likely to hit the terrible Heavies into Cathar matchup than you are those bad ones in classic because Cathar aren't super-strong into anything but mele, meaning they're less likely to populate the meta of a V-Cheese tourney than Q9 would be in a classic cheese tourney. Now there's a reasonable argument that Heavies -> Cathar is a lower win % than 4th -> Q9, which is perfectly plausible, but when planning a V-Cheese build I'm more interested in the probability of a bad matchup happening than whether my bad matchup is a 20% win chance or a 30% win chance. Another interesting argument is if you think the Cathar work best as a ~ 3 person squad with Raelin & range instead of just spamming Cathar. But in a matchup like this disengage is still valuable, which gives the Heavies a nice tool that Knights / Dwarves don't have. All of that being said, if I wanted to run Heavies I'd prefer to do it in non-VC land, but I don't think it's as much worse in VC-land as many others do. Kuthnak is a very different question, but that's more about bringing the blades & DCs up than bringing the heavies down. |
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Re: C3V/SoV-inclusive Power Rankings
Any chance of an update soon? Brute Gruts at B is criminal.
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*coughs*
“Just because I disagree with you, does not mean that I hate you. We need to relearn that in our society" - Morgan Freeman |
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Re: C3V/SoV-inclusive Power Rankings
Also, if Boreos does stay in A- rank, then Morgoloth should rise one subrank to A- as well. Morgoloth provides an insane amount of value to a Wolves of Badru army; an amount that is on par to what Boreos provides for the large constructs. Both are very powerful unique heroes who's biggest flaw is that the units they're run alongside are not that strong (within the context of the VCheese meta). I think B+ is a better ranking for both, but if Boreos remains A- rank on the logic that he makes the construct army so much better, then I think Morgoloth should join him on the basis that he does the exact same thing for the Wolves of Badru.
Edit: also Arashara at D tier is a complete travesty; she's overpriced for sure but she's not THAT bad. “Just because I disagree with you, does not mean that I hate you. We need to relearn that in our society" - Morgan Freeman |
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Re: C3V/SoV-inclusive Power Rankings
To be fair Wolves of Badru are not C at all. To me they are more like B or even B+. Yes they are kinda fragile but their firepower is insane, 23 attack dices per turn hello there.
We played monks vs wolves not too long ago, wolves destroyed that machup with ease. To be fair they are very good against anything that's not top top tier. For example wolves of Badru vs anubians wolves, Badrus completely own this machup, probably win it 99% of time, and yet they are rated lower??? |
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Re: C3V/SoV-inclusive Power Rankings
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A+ Deathreavers Isamu Major Q9 Marro Warriors Raelin the Kyrie Warrior (RoTV) A 10th Regiment of Foot 4th Massachusetts Line Cathar Spearmen Fen Hydra Fyorlag Spiders Greenscale Warriors Grimnak Heavy Gruts Kaemon Awa Knights of Weston Major Q10 Marcu Esenwein Marro Stingers Me-Burq-Sa Nerak the Glacian Swog Rider Nilfheim Quahon Sir Gilbert Vulcanmech Incendiborgs A- Airborne Elite Axegrinders of Burning Forge Azazel the Kyrie Warrior Azurite Warlord B-11 Resistance Corps Black Wyrmling Blade Gruts Blastatrons Boreos Braxas Cyprien Esenwein Darrak Ambershard Death Chasers of Thesk Eldgrim the Viking Champion Gladiatrons Guilty McCreech Heracles Krav Maga Agents Kuthnak Laglor Marcus Decimus Gallus Mezzodemon Warmongers Microcorp Troopers Mimring Mogrimm Forgehammer Phantom Knights Roman Legionnaires Rygarn Varkaanan Greyspears B+ Alastair MacDirk Arktos Arrow Gruts Asterios Atlaga the Kyrie Warrior Augamo Brute Gruts Bol Buccaneers of Tortuga Clayton Pierce Corvor the Tainted One Crixus Dreadgul Raiders Eltahale Fire Elemental Goblin Cutters Havech Eradicators Kate Crawford Krug Louis "Mad Dog" Malone Major J15 Marrden Nagrubs Mohican River Tribe Moltenclaw Morgan's Riflemen Morgoloth Ne-Gok-Sa Ogre Pulverizer Pel the Hill Giant Red Wyrmling Syvarris The Varja Tor-Kul-Na Ulfrid Hornwrangler Varkaanan Quickblades Varkaanan Swiftfangs Warforged Soldiers Zelrig Zetacron B 12th Caucasus Rifles Acolytes of Vorganund Agent Skahen Air Elemental Arkmer Avernus Bahadur Beorn Boltcutter Bugbear Basher Brave Arrow Brunak Capuan Gladiators Charos Count Raymond Deathcommander Mark 3 Finn the Viking Champion Goblin Slashers Haduc Heirloom Himmelskralle Honor Guard of the Blasted Lands Horned Skull Brutes Hrognak (unmounted) Izumi Samurai James Murphy Johnny "Shotgun" Sullivan Josie Whistlestop Kon-Tar-Na Kurrok the Elementalist Kursus Makwa Tribesman Marro Dividers Marro Drones Marutuk Minions of Utgar Nakita Agents Nhah Scirh Cultsts Nicholas Esenwein Othkurik The Black Dragon Racheim Re-Tak-Shi Sacred Band Samuel Brown Sentinels of Jandar Shieldsmiths of Granite Keep Sir Hawthorne Skull Demon Talingul Van Nessing Varkanaan Darkclaws Venoc Vipers Venoc Warlord Warriors of Ashra Water Elemental White Wyrmling Wildwood Monarch Wildwood Runner Wildwood Sentinel Zombies of Morindan B- 8th Infantry Pathfinders Anubian Wolves Ashi-Dhulu Ashigaru Harquebus Aubrien Archers Axentia Breach Cal the Smuggler Capt. John Varan Command Courier Concan the Kyrie Warrior Crypt Guardian Drow Chainfighter Durgeth Ravagers Frost Giant of Morh Gen. Simon Fraser Gorillitroopers Hoplitron Ice Troll Berserker Jorhdawn Kantono Daishi Kira Jax Koggo Kyntela Gwyn Lilja Locksley MacDirk Warriors Marrden Hounds Master Lao Xin Motley Max Ogre Warhulk Olog Omegacron Omnicron Repulsors Ornak Quorik Warwitch Red Mantis Blade Dancers Sentinels of Grax Shadow Binder Shadow Fiend Shurrak Siiv Sonya Esenwein Spartacus Specters of Aldorn Sgt. Drake Alexander (SotM) Tandros Kreel Tarn Viking Warriors Teeth of the Makwa Thorgrim the Viking Champion Ulginesh Valguard Wastewalker Gage Wyvern Xualtiaca Fire Ants Zaeus Zettian Infantry C+ 20th Maine Volunteers 53rd North Carolina Sharpshooters Amberhive Protectors Ana Karithon Achillean Gladiatrix Armoc Vipers Arthur of Sherwood Ashigaru Yari Banshees of Durgeth Swamp Beakface Rogue Beakface Sneaks Bloodburst Thrall Blue Wyrmling Bramcephys Brontos Chardris Clawfoot Interceptor Darkprowl Thrall Death Knights of Valkrill Deepwyrm Drow Deltacron Earth Elemental Elaria the Pale Emirroon Executioner 616 Jotun Kato Katsuro Kha Kozil Kozuke Samurai Kumiko M-43 Resistance Fighters Maltiz Tez Microcorp Agents Migol Ironwill Millerson Morsbane Ninjas of the Northern Wind Nottingham Brigand Omnicron Snipers Otonashi Patrick Ferguson Protectors of Ullar Raelin the Kyrie Warrior (SotM) Red Ants of Aunstrom Rendar Fy Seleena Sgt. Drake Alexander (RoTV) Shadow Hound Shaolin Monks Siege Sir Orrick Soontir Van Sonlen Suskra Swaysil Swog Rider Su-Bak-Na Taelord the Kyrie Warrior Tagawa Samurai Tagawa Samurai Archers Tetraites Theracus Tornak Tomb Skeleton Archers Tombstone Gunslinger Tyrian the Kyrie Warrior Varkaanan Blade Dancers Warden 816 Xundar Yi Feng Zettian Deathwings Zettian Guards Zhen Yuan C Agent Carr Akumaken Brimstone Calibrax the Kyrie Warrior Chen Tang Deathstalkers Deathwalker 8000 Ebon Armor Eilan Sidhe Emperor Andask Estivara Evar Scarcarver Garrett Burns Gorillinators Gothlok Granite Guardians Greater Ice Elemental Hrognak (mounted) Iron Golem Jarek Guy Knights of Blackgaard Manauvi Marro Drudge Marro Hive Master Win Chiu Woo Mind Flayer Mastermind Myrddin Quasatch Hunters Ranjit Singh Retiarius Rhogar Dragonspine Shiori Sir Denrick Skeletons of Annellintia Tomoe Gozen Torin Urk Viceron the Blood Knight Werewolf Lord Wolves of Badru Z'Thoth, Mouth of the Abyss Zombie Hulk C- Brandis Skyhunter Deadeye Dan Deathstrike Thrall Deathwalker 9000 Dumutef Guard Einar Imperium Erevan Sunshadow Feral Troll Grigor & Rogirg Gurei-Oni Kee-Mo-Shi Kelda the Kyrie Warrior Major X17 Marro Gnids Martial La Hire Mok Moriko Obsidian Guards Otar Parmenio Prince al'Kahora Priscus Rechets of Bogdan Roman Archers Shades of Bleakwoode Sharwin Wildborn Sujoah Tomb Skeletons Tul-Bak-Ra Uzog Zogross Hardscale D Acolarh Arashara Goshiri Cormin the Dark Cxurg'gyath Deathwalker 7000 Dund Dzu-Teh Elite Onyx Vipers Empress Kiova Iskra Esenwein Khosumet the Darklord Master of the Hunt Mika Connour Pelloth Preyblood Thrall Runa Saylind the Kyrie Warrior Sir Dupuis Sudema Templar Cavalry Wo-Sa-Ga F Grok Riders Hatamoto Taro Sahuagin Raider |
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Re: C3V/SoV-inclusive Power Rankings
Thanks for the updates!
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