The Book of Nitro

[Ronin]

If they're just Explosion Markers, I have no problem with the SA being dependent on them. Basically any permutation of the card that doesn't have the MGH-dependent powers theme is cool with me.

[L0B5T3R]

Originally Posted by Ronin

If they're just Explosion Markers, I have no problem with the SA being dependent on them. Basically any permutation of the card that doesn't have the MGH-dependent powers theme is cool with me.

Alright. I think originally I was just scratching for a name and ran with MGH without considering the impact it had on the range aspect. IMO the expanding range is a must.

I believe that will make everyone happy, but it brings us back to the names being too generic.

How about Self Detonation SA? Living Bomb for the 1st power? Gaseous Reconstitution for the final power?

[japes]

I like the MGH theme and mechanic. I don't want to lose it. I don't think he needs a growing expanding explosive effect without the MGH as that just sells it in my opinion. We just need to find a way to word it that doesn't seem to fiddly. Let me see if anything comes to me.

[japes]

MUTANT GROWTH HORMONES 2
At the end of the round, you may reveal an "X" Order Marker on this card to to add one MGH marker on each Army Card you control with the Mutant Growth Hormone special power. Nitro may never have more than 2 MGH markers on his card.

EXPLOSION SPECIAL ATTACK
Range Special. Attack 3+ Special.
All figures within “X” spaces of Nitro are affected by this Special Attack, where “X” is equal to 1+ the number of MGH Markers on this card. Add 1 to the Attack for each MGH Marker on this card. Roll attack dice once for all affected figures. Affected figures roll defense separately. After using Explosion Special Attack remove all MGH Markers from this card.

This allows MGH to be a reusable power with adjustments for the max number and allows his explosive power to be used without markers.

[japes]

MUTANT GROWTH HORMONES 2
At the end of the round, you may reveal an "X" Order Marker on this card to to add on MGH marker on each Army Card you control with the Mutant Growth Hormone X special power up to a max of 2.

EXPLOSION SPECIAL ATTACK
Range Special. Attack 4+ Special.
All figures within “X” spaces of Nitro are affected by this Special Attack, where “X” is equal to 1+ the number of MGH Markers on this card. Add 1 to the Attack for each MGH Marker on this card. Roll attack dice once for all affected figures. Affected figures roll defense separately. After using Explosion Special Attack remove all MGH Markers from this card.


Side note...attack of 4, 5, 6 on so many spaces is likely going to mess this guy up cost wise. If the expanding is what's important to you then keep the attack static and just let the MGH increase his range.

[L0B5T3R]

Originally Posted by japes

MUTANT GROWTH HORMONES 2
At the end of the round, you may reveal an "X" Order Marker on this card to to add one MGH marker on each Army Card you control with the Mutant Growth Hormone X special power up to a max of 2.

EXPLOSION SPECIAL ATTACK
Range Special. Attack 4+ Special.
All figures within “X” spaces of Nitro are affected by this Special Attack, where “X” is equal to 1+ the number of MGH Markers on this card. Add 1 to the Attack for each MGH Marker on this card. Roll attack dice once for all affected figures. Affected figures roll defense separately. After using Explosion Special Attack remove all MGH Markers from this card.


Side note...attack of 4, 5, 6 on so many spaces is likely going to mess this guy up cost wise. If the expanding is what's important to you then keep the attack static and just let the MGH increase his range.

I really like the idea of both range and attack capable of increasing. We can go with 3+ special here for the att. That would cap his attack at 5.

[japes]

Originally Posted by L0B5T3R

I really like the idea of both range and attack capable of increasing. We can go with 3+ special here for the att. That would cap his attack at 5.

I just worry about it since every figure in a range of 5 is a lot of figures defending a 5 attack. We can wait and see though.

[L0B5T3R]

Oh yea a range of 5 is too much. I was looking at a range of 3 with an attack of 5 (max)

[L0B5T3R]

How does the wording japes created sound to everyone? @Ronin Now with only 2 markers and Attack 3+ special.

[Ronin]

I'm not too troubled over the wording so long as the mechanics are clear. Wording can be refined in Final Editing.

I would slightly tweak that version of the MGH power:

At the end of the round, you may reveal an "X" Order Marker on this card to to place one orange MGH Marker on each Army Card you control with the Mutant Growth Hormones special power. There may never be more than 2 MGH Markers on this card.

Just to clarify that the number of markers on Nitro's card is what's being capped at 2 and not the number or Army Cards that you can place MGH Markers on (I think most people would get that right anyway, especially with Nitro currently being the only one, but it doesn't hurt to cross that 't' now).

Implementation-wise, I'm cool as long as he can explode without doing drugs. No issues with that last version.

[japes]

Originally Posted by Ronin

I'm not too troubled over the wording so long as the mechanics are clear. Wording can be refined in Final Editing.

I would slightly tweak that version of the MGH power:

Just to clarify that the number of markers on Nitro's card is what's being capped at 2 and not the number or Army Cards that you can place MGH Markers on (I think most people would get that right anyway, especially with Nitro currently being the only one, but it doesn't hurt to cross that 't' now).

Implementation-wise, I'm cool as long as he can explode without doing drugs. No issues with that last version.

Yeah that was my intent. Different figures may be capped differently depending on use/power. some may be 1 while others may get more. Good catch.

oh yeah and Lobby...never count on me for wording...I just try to get the point across the best I can plagiarizing what ever powers I can and let guys like Ronin and V translated it to actual heroscape words. I'm an engineer by day and art department by night...I do numbers and pictures...not words. You'd probably have figured that out soon enough so I'll just get it right out in the open

[L0B5T3R]

Originally Posted by japes

oh yeah and Lobby...never count on me for wording...I just try to get the point across the best I can plagiarizing what ever powers I can and let guys like Ronin and V translated it to actual heroscape words. I'm an engineer by day and art department by night...I do numbers and pictures...not words. You'd probably have figured that out soon enough so I'll just get it right out in the open

Ha, I meant more in the sense of does this design pass Ronin's theme issues. If there are no other complaints I will call for an Initial Playtest.
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@japes - YEA
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