The Book of Mera

[Karat]

I'd be fine with upping her stats if, like quozl said, it's thematic overall for her.

[japes]

Originally Posted by TrollBrute

When on water spaces, the two Aquamans are 5L/5M/3R/8A/7D and 5L/5M/1R/6A/6D (with a ranged SA and Submerge 11). I think 5 Life and 4 base Defense here would be justifiable.

Hard Water is pretty good, as long as she's on a map with water. I could see tweaking the rolls or range if testing shows it too powerful. Otherwise, she looks good to me.

If someone takes her on a map with no water that's there deal. Personally if you are testing this on a map without water she should seem under powered.

[Arch-vile]

Originally Posted by Karat

I'd be fine with upping her stats if, like quozl said, it's thematic overall for her.

In the Geoff Johns works featuring Mera, she is shown to be quite the capable fighter, fighting side-by-side with Aquaman on multiple occasions. I'm not sure if the more iconic version version of the character is less of a fighter, as I haven't read any of the earlier stuff. I also haven't touched any New 52 Aquaman, but Mera's bio on comic vine & wikipedia doesn't look very different from the character that I'm familiar with.

Originally Posted by japes

If someone takes her on a map with no water that's there deal. Personally if you are testing this on a map without water she should seem under powered.

Very true. Also, some figures have ways to place extra water tiles on the map. Tempest can place water tiles, and if you draft non-Atlanteans, Hydro-Man can also place water tiles. So even on a dry map Mera & Aquaman could do pretty well if they're in the right army.

[johnny139]

Mera is sort of interesting power-wise because, for a long time, she was sort of "Aquaman's girlfriend" and not much more. But in the past decade or so she's been getting a big push and I'd put them on equal footing. So you could really go either way - I'd say that the more recent version is more popular and getting to be the iconic one, though.

She'll need to be tested with Tempest 99% of the time, and I suspect as a result Hard Water's roll is going to go up... but I'm mostly cool with her as-is.

One exception - and this is sort of a weird precedent, I admit - but historically, our "love" powers have A) had no range limit and B) been character-specific. On top of that, it's a bit weird to me that she only feels love when within 6 spaces of her husband... I'd kind of like the power to be active as long as you control Aquaman. It seems strange to me to have her be "in love" with Namor or Orm or whatever.

Unless we rename it to Atlantean Consort or something which implies more politics than emotion.

[dok]

The SotM Raelin power is fine. But when paired with Hydro-Man or Tempest, she becomes extremely powerful. 6 defense (7 with height) in a strategic spot, and the ability to autowound everything within 4(!) spaces every turn.

(As with my CRB reviews, I am giving my first impression of the OP without reading earlier commentary. I hope this is considered useful.)

[quozl]

Originally Posted by dok

the ability to autowound everything within 4(!) spaces every turn.

Yeah, I'd like to make the autowound easier to avoid.

How about this?

HARD WATER 11
Instead of attacking, if Mera is within 2 spaces of a water space, you may roll the 20-sided die for all opponents' figures adjacent to that water space, one at a time. If you roll 11 or higher, the figure receives one wound.

[Lazy Orang]

Originally Posted by johnny139

Mera is sort of interesting power-wise because, for a long time, she was sort of "Aquaman's girlfriend" and not much more. But in the past decade or so she's been getting a big push and I'd put them on equal footing. So you could really go either way - I'd say that the more recent version is more popular and getting to be the iconic one, though.

Definitley sounds more interesting (and less 1940s ) to me.

Originally Posted by johnny139

One exception - and this is sort of a weird precedent, I admit - but historically, our "love" powers have A) had no range limit and B) been character-specific. On top of that, it's a bit weird to me that she only feels love when within 6 spaces of her husband... I'd kind of like the power to be active as long as you control Aquaman. It seems strange to me to have her be "in love" with Namor or Orm or whatever.

Hmmm... another interesting thing about doing it like that is that Atlantean King gives synergy with Aquaman vI and Namor, whereas tying it to the name Aquaman gives her synergy with Aquaman vI and vII - probably more thematic, and arguably more useful (and I wouldn't be surprised to see an Atlantean King synergy for Aquaman vI and Namor down the line anyway.)

[laughing matter]

Atlantean King synergy could work on some Atlantean Soldiers/Palace Guards.

[Heroscaper Guy]

Originally Posted by Lazy Orang

Definitley sounds more interesting (and less 1940s ) to me.

Hmmm... another interesting thing about doing it like that is that Atlantean King gives synergy with Aquaman vI and Namor, whereas tying it to the name Aquaman gives her synergy with Aquaman vI and vII - probably more thematic, and arguably more useful (and I wouldn't be surprised to see an Atlantean King synergy for Aquaman vI and Namor down the line anyway.)

Too late: Aqualad

[Lazy Orang]

Originally Posted by Heroscaper Guy

Too late: Aqualad

Atlantean Hero =/= Atlantean King. I was thinking more specific.

[Viegon]

Loving the direction! My thoughts:
1) Yeah, her current stats are too low. Bringing her life up to 5 and her defense up to 4 sounds like a good start. I could even see her attack being bumped to 5.
2) I agree with johnny that specifically naming Aquaman for Love of Atlantis makes more sense than Atlantean King.
3) I also agree that Hard Water as-is is really powerful, but I'm not a fan of quozl's suggested tweak (she needs to have water around to use, but her Hard Water abilities aren't restricted by the water's location). Personally, I'd just bump the roll on it up to 14 or 15, but otherwise leave it as-is.

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[Lazy Orang]

Hmmm.... I'm wondering, Love of Atlantis being just a conditional defence aura for Atlanteans seems a little dull to me, and while it might fit as a 'love' power, it doesn't really feel particularly vivid as one to me. I'm wondering if something along these lines would work:

LOVE OF ATLANTIS
If you control Aquaman and he is not destroyed, add one to the Defense of Mera and all Atlanteans you control within 6 clear sight spaces of Mera. If Aquaman is in your army and he is destroyed, add one to the Attack of Mera and all Atlanteans you control within 6 clear sight spaces of Mera.

The idea here is that, when Aquaman is alive, her calming influence improves your Atlanteans' defence, but if he's dead, she's so angry that her influence improves their attack instead (which doesn't seem unthematic, seeing as she was angry enough to be a Red Lantern for a time). I know an Attack aura is powerful, but you're likely to be pretty badly damaged by the time it hits anyway, and your guys won't be able to take the same kind of punishment anymore. Thoughts?