The Book of Raiden

[Scapemage]

I agree with the minor tweaks going into the last set. They should be enough to reign him in.

[Spidey'tilIDie]

Looking good! And fun! Which is even more important in some ways.

[Arkham]

C3G STANDARD PLAYTEST FEEDBACK FORM

NAME OF THE TEST UNIT Raiden

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Army Test 1
Map: Custom
Units:
Raiden(400), Star-Lord(250), Cap(240), Nebula(240) (1130)
vs.
Luke Cage(190), Iron Fist(260), Spider-Man(250), Moon Knight(150), Wolverine(280) (1130)

Spoiler Alert!

Attack Damage:
R3T1: 4 wounds on Wolverine(botch). (Star-Lord)
R3T2: 4 wounds(2 are excess) on Wolverine(botch), kills him.
R3T2B: 1 wound on Luke Cage.
R3T3: 2 wounds on Iron Fist.
R3T3B: 1 wound on Iron Fist.
R4T1: 3 wounds(1 is excess) on Iron Fist, kills him.
R4T2: 1 wound on Luke Cage.

Thunder God:
R3T1: Saves Star-Lord from being killed by Cage. Takes all OMs 1-3 and X. Rolls 1 unblockable.
1 wound on Wolverine.
Fist, Cage, and Spider-Man did not receive a wound.

Protector of Earthrealm:
R3T1: fails roll(13+1)
R3T2: success(17+2=19)
R3T3: success(18+6=24)
R4T1: fails roll(2+6)
R4T2: fails roll(9+6)

Notes:
R2T1: Cap puts 3 wounds on Spider-Man(botch). Nebula puts 1 wound on Cage.
R2T2: Star-Lord puts 1 wound on Cage and 1 wound on Wolverine.
R2T2: Spider-Man pulls and puts 2 wounds on Cap(botch), then Cage kills Cap.
R2T3: Cage puts 1 wound on Star-Lord.
R3T1: Wolverine puts 2 wounds on Star-Lord.
R3T2: Wolverine kills Star-Lord then heals 1 wound.
R3T3: Iron Fist puts 3 wounds on Raiden. Cage puts 1 wound on Raiden.
R4T1: Cage puts 1 wound on Raiden.
R4T3: Nebula kills Luke Cage.
R4T3: Moon Knight kills Raiden.
R6T1: Moon Knight puts 1 wound on Nebula.
R6T2: Nebula puts 1 wound on Spidey.
R6T2: Spidey pulls and puts 2 wounds on Nebula.
R6T3: Nebula kills Spider-Man.
R7T1: Moon Knight puts 3 wounds on Nebula(botch).
R7T1: Nebula puts 1 wound on Moon Knight.
R7T2: Nebula puts 1 wound on Moon Knight.
R7T3: Moon Knight kills Nebula.


Moon Knight with 2/5 wounds.

Very good back and forth, with a close finish that could have gone either way. Raiden managed to do a fair amount of damage, and bought Star-Lord one more turn of living, but overall the Fighters pulled out the victory. Raiden felt quite balanced and fun here.

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Army Test 2
Map: Custom
Units:
Raiden(400), Ms. Marvel(350), Cap(240), Swordsman(160) (1150)
vs.
Cyclops II(240), Angel(90), Domino(225), Jean Grey(180), Blob(165), Psylocke(250) (1150)

Spoiler Alert!

Attack Damage:
R4T3: 2 wounds(1 is excess) on Domino, kills her.
R5T1: 3 wounds on Psylocke.
R5T2: 2 wounds(1 is excess) on Psylocke, kills her.
R5T3: 2 wounds on Angel.
R6T2: 3 wounds(1 is excess) on Angel, kills him.

Thunder God:
R4T2: Saves Cap from being killed by Psylocke's MMA. Takes OM3 and X. Rolls 2 unblockables.
1 wound on Psylocke.
1 wound on Domino.
0 wounds on Angel.

Protector of Earthrealm:
R4T3: success(16+3=19)
R5T1: fails roll(4+3)
R5T2: fails roll(7+4)
R5T3: fails roll(6+4)

Notes:
R1T2: Ms. Marvel puts 2 wounds on Blob(botch).
R1T3: Ms. Marvel puts 1 wound on Blob.
R2T1: Cap puts 2 wounds on Cyclops(botch).
R2T1: Cyclops puts 3 wounds on Ms. Marvel and kills Swordsman with his special attack.
R2T2: Cap puts 3 wounds on Jean and 2 wounds on Domino. Ms. Marvel kills Cyclops.
R3T2: Ms. Marvel kills Blob.
R3T2: Psylocke kills Ms. Marvel.
R4T3: Domino kills Cap.


Raiden with 1/7 wounds.

This game was pretty botch heavy on the Mutant team. Other than an awesome special attack by Cyclops, they were fighting an uphill battle luck wise. All in all, Raiden still did a fair amount of damage, and was fun to play. The game felt pretty even beyond the luck aspect.

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THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT'S COST, BALANCE, & DRAFTABILITY:
I feel pretty confident in Raiden's balance here in what is likely 2 of his stronger builds. 2 pretty close games, to go along with the other close games he's had. At some point, it's up to the luck of the dice to determine who gets the win in the end. I think he's in a good place.

[Arkham]

After those last 2 games, I feel pretty confident in Raiden's fun and balance.

The breakdown is:

Big wins:
Medium wins: 1
Close wins: 5

Close losses: 1
Medium losses: 1
Big losses:

That said, one other fine tweak to make to wrap this up, I'd like to bump his roll required to 20, and bump the cap on his boost to 7. This should help tighten things up just a tad more.

If people are on board with that, I'll call for a vote to Final editing.

[Spidey'tilIDie]

What was the roll at before? If you're happy, I think it looks good, so Yea

[Arkham]

Originally Posted by Spidey'tilIDie

What was the roll at before? If you're happy, I think it looks good, so Yea

Roll upon initials and Lazy's tests was 17 or higher, and no cap on how much could be added.

Big wins:
Medium wins: 1
Close wins: 2

Close losses:
Medium losses: 1
Big losses:

Then we put a cap of 6 on the roll.

Big wins:
Medium wins:
Close wins: 2

Close losses:
Medium losses:
Big losses:

Then we upped his points by 10, and his roll requirement by 1 to 18.

Big wins:
Medium wins:
Close wins: 1

Close losses: 1
Medium losses:
Big losses:

Then I'm suggesting to finalize him we up his roll requirement from 18 to 20, but bump his cap by 1 from 6 to 7. Just a very fine touch change as I think he's good either way.

[Lazy Orang]

If we did that and he's coming in 1/1 with close games off the present set-up, I'd kind of want to drop his price back to 390 if you make that change (which I'd be delighted with honestly - it would be really nice for the game to have someone else at that cost other than Doomsday, it's much less crowded than 400).


P.S. Forgot Heimdall, but he's very much a factional piece, not a throw-in.

[Arkham]

There's also Heimdall.

I'll let the others weigh in, I'm not opposed to that, but I don't really care either way.

[Lazy Orang]

Originally Posted by Arkham

There's also Heimdall.

I'll let the others weigh in, I'm not opposed to that, but I don't really care either way.

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Yeah, noticed that before I saw your post, but as I said there, he's definitely a factional piece rather than a throw-in, so for army-building he doesn't really count.

[Arkham]

I’m fine with dropping to 390 with the proposed tweak to his roll.

I propose we move to Final Editing.

[Scapemage]

Yeah, I like 390 with the roll tweak you suggested. Needing a 20 is tough stuff, but the extra boost encourages more play to get the boost. Yea to editing.

[Karat]

Sounds good. Yea