The Book of Venom (Pigeon)

[johnny139]

Not sure this is how I'd be spending my time, but sure.

I'd personally go with Venom Pigeon as a name, no SI, but that's me. I think it's a lot clearer and, well, I doubt the pigeon's name is Pigeon. Cuts him out of possible Venom synergy but there won't be much of that anyways.

[Lord Pyre]

You guys complain when I do Indy, now you complain when I do Marvel... man can’t catch a break

Yeah I’ve come around to the name thing like you suggest

[Yodaking]

Did any of those 3 wise guy pigeons from Animainacs have a name? I think one of them is this pigeon.

Here we go:

The Goodfeathers are an Italian American trio of pigeons: Squit (gray), Bobby (turquoise), and Pesto (lavender).

Let's call him Pesto!

[Lord Pyre]

I propose we move to Initial Testing.

Also I think that Vagabond would be a good class here, too. If anyone has a preference.



COMPETITIVE REVIEW BOARD CHECKLIST

Spoiler Alert!

1. Does the design disrupt opponent's Order Markers in a way that offers a net gain in turns taken with strong figures versus the turns your opponent can take with strong figures (Ozymandias, Joker (I), Meteorite)?
   
   Nope.
   
2. Does the design offer auto-wounding that either doesn't require taking turns or is otherwise extremely efficient (War Machine, Jason Voorhees, Cosmic Cube)?
   
   Nope.
   
3. Does the design immobilize figures or prevent turn-taking (Blob, Spider-Girl, Diablo, Green Lantern Alan)?
   
   Nope.
   
4. Does the design move opponent's figures in a way that's easy to pull off and can move figures multiple spaces in multiple directions (Graviton, Magneto, Vulture)?
   
   Nope.
   
5. Does the design allow for moving friendly figures without taking turns, or for moving 2+ friendly figures while still taking a turn (Martian Manhunter [I], Green Lantern John, Angel)?
   
   Nope.
   
6. Does the figure allow for two figures, one of them being a wide range of possible figures, to both attack on a single Order Marker (Zombie, Robot, Iron Patriot, Ms. Marvel, Rocket [II], Martian Manhunter [II], Nebula, Baby Groot, Havok)?
   
   Nope.
   
7. Does the design offer any sort of passive boost outside of a narrow set of figures (Star-Lord, Sage, Brainiac 5, Captain America, Batman [III])?
   
   Nope.
   
8. Does the design help keep your allies alive just by being nearby (Daring Decoy, Aaron Cash, Jocasta, Weather Wizard)?
   
   Nope.
   
9. Is it OK for the design to have defensive abilities that could make it essentially unkillable in some matchups or endgame situations (Cosmic Cube, Healing Factor, Master Martial Artist)?
   
   Resilience KIND OF, but not really a huge thing.
   
10. If the figure has auto-destroy powers or powers that can force the opponent's figures to attack each other, are they balanced for strong opposing figures and/or boosts that can make the powers more reliable (Puppet Master, Psycho-Man, Enchantress)?
    
    Nope.
    
11. Is the figure likely to earn its value many times over by either running out alone at the start of a battle (pre-eval Crow, Solomon Grundy) or by sitting in the startzone until the end of a battle (Arnim Zola, Silk Spectre)?
    
    Nope.
    
12. Will synergies in the design create concerns for future designs (Mad Thinker, pre-eval Enchantress, Star-Lord)?
    
    Nope.
    
13. Does the design combo particularly well with one of the design concerns above (Magma)?
    Nope.

CONSISTENCY CHECKLIST (SHORT FORM)

Spoiler Alert!

Consistency Concerns
Name and Identity
Verify character is named in a way that is clear, accurate and feels consistent with the way other characters are named.

Yep

Uniqueness and Type
Verify that the power text reflects the listed uniqueness and type, that the uniqueness fits the character, and that squad size is listed for squads.

Yep

Left Box
If the character's species, class or personality is reused, verify that the character feels thematically consistent with other figures that have that species, class or personality. If they are not reused, verify that there is no pre-existing species, class or personality that would make more sense.

Yep

Size and Height
Verify that the listed size and height are accurate. Standing the mini up next to a stack of tiles, and a few other minis of various sizes, is encouraged.

Yep

Super Strength and Flying
Verify that these special powers are present if they make sense, and not if they don't.

Yep

New Powers - Names
Verify that any new powers are not using power names identical to, or very similar to, pre-existing powers. Verify that any new powers are actually new and not old powers with new names.

Yep

New Powers - Effects
Verify that the effect and timing of all new powers is clear. Verify that any logical immunities, benefits, or weaknesses (whether those be necessary for thematic or mechanical reasons) are implemented: consider whether defensive powers that work against normal attacks should also work against special attacks, whether or not a power has an elemental component that some figures should resist, and whether or not unliving figures (such as Undead and Androids) should be affected.

Yep

Reused Powers
Verify that the design is reusing powers in place of creating new ones, where reused powers could implement the same theme and mechanics with no differences or only trivial differences. Verify that any reused powers have the correct text.

Resilience is right off of Eddie 2

Power Level
Verify that the character's movement, attack, range, and defense (in conjunction with any special powers that enhance those stats) feel consistent with the capabilities of characters with analogous powers and abilities. Verify that the character falls into a similar point range to characters with comparative powers and abilities.

Yep

[tcglkn]

I like Scavenger. Yea

[Tornado]

Yea

[Arch-vile]

yea

[Ronin]

yea

I like Scavenger myself.

[Lord Pyre]

THIS PASSES

I'll stick with Scavenger then!

[Lord Pyre]

Does 30 sound good as an initial cost? Feels a little low to me, but I haven't thought about cheap guys like this since Kick Ass!

Also, anything we want to see in these tests? I assume general Cap/Star Lord builds, and VP is a good filler.

[tcglkn]

Calculator is giving me 80 points but that seems way too high, I think closer to 30 is right. Maybe 40.

Also Flying with move of 7 is really fast, should he be that fast?

[Lord Pyre]

Originally Posted by tcglkn

Calculator is giving me 80 points but that seems way too high, I think closer to 30 is right. Maybe 40.

Also Flying with move of 7 is really fast, should he be that fast?

His entire appearance is in the art post, you tell me!

Definitely want him cheap though!