Public Design Workshop

[Lazy Orang]

Originally Posted by Aggressive Sock

Personally, I'd drop the Barrage of Fear special attack for something more fitting of Cyborg Superman, and less of a copy of Sinestro's. Something that's more personality based.

You mentioned his desire to die, so here's an idea:

FEAR AND AGONY
When this Yellow Lantern attacks another figure without the Valiant or Fearless personality, the defending figure rolls 1 fewer defense die. After attacking, if you did not inflict 1 or more wounds, place 1 wound on this card.

This way, you can represent his desire to die, but also give him his defense I feel he deserves without his Kryptonian power being on the card, and the lantern boost. You can lower his life to 6(as is his life for his original card, so being a lantern shouldn't change that). With Manhunters being a big part of his card, I see no issue of him losing his batteries too easily, as they can always add them back. So it's a fine balance. With that in mind, lowering his batteries to 2, you can keep his stats more consistently high even when his batteries are out. So he's not so dependent on them, but they still come in handy for increasing his power. So it's worth taking a couple turns every 3 rounds to replace them.

LIFE 6
MOVE 6
RANGE 3
ATTACK 6
DEFENSE 6

YELLOW POWER BATTERY 2
Start the game with 2 yellow Battery Markers on this card. Add one to this Yellow Lantern’s Move, Range, Attack, and Defense numbers for each yellow Battery Marker on this card.

FEAR AND AGONY
When this Yellow Lantern attacks another figure without the Valiant or Fearless personality, the defending figure rolls 1 fewer defense die. After attacking, if you did not inflict 1 or more wounds, place 1 wound on this card.

MANHUNTER GRANDMASTER
After revealing an order marker on this card, before moving and attacking with this Yellow Lantern, you may remove 1 yellow Battery Marker from this card, and then roll the 20-sided die.
• If you roll 1-5, you may move and attack with 1 Manhunter figure you control.
• If you roll 6-17, you may move and attack with up to 2 Manhunter figures you control.
• If you roll 18-20, you may move and attack with up to 4 Manhunter figures you control.
This special may only be used once per round.

With this, I feel it incorporates a great deal of his personality, power level, and role. Batteries full, you've got a heavy hitter(9 attack w/ height) with decent range(eye beams, energy constructs), great defense, and fast movement. He lowers his enemies defense by 1, so that makes him even more threatening. He can trade off some power to move and attack with some Manhunters before he takes his movement and attack, once per round. He's running a team of Manhunters, so batteries can be replenished. Lastly, he takes a wound when he doesn't dish out a wound when attempting to, as his frustrations and desire to die get the best of him.

I'd say with a build like that, it's well balanced until actually designing it, thematic, and synergized. He has a great deal of power and potential, but also has drawbacks and limitations. Both necessary.

If you dig it, feel free to take the suggestions and run with them. If not, it's all good. I like the idea behind it and the direction.

Looking really cool.

Any thoughts on my ideas for Captain Nemo on the last page?

[Smithy Winfred]

On the topic of YL cyborg supes, does he actually have a yellow ring/use yellow constructs? I was under the impression that he just fought on the side of the Sinestro Corps, but didn't actually use the yellow ring. I may be wrong though. Otherwise, I really like the card, although I think the manhunter power won't see a lot of use, which to me is a tad disappointing.

Great ideas, I'd really like to see that pain and agony power on a Superman-Prime card.

[laughing matter]

Originally Posted by Smithy Winfred

On the topic of YL cyborg supes, does he actually have a yellow ring/use yellow constructs? I was under the impression that he just fought on the side of the Sinestro Corps, but didn't actually use the yellow ring. I may be wrong though. Otherwise, I really like the card, although I think the manhunter power won't see a lot of use, which to me is a tad disappointing.

Great ideas, I'd really like to see that pain and agony power on a Superman-Prime card.

I think so too, and aggressive sock has been very helpful on this design, but I think raising the number of manhunters you can move would help with that, maybe making it 2 4 6 respectively. And I love the fear and agony power as wel

[IAmBatman]

Originally Posted by laughing matter

Yes, but he was drafted by Scapemage, and as the top taught us all, If you quit the hero business and you have a full draft list, they become public domain. Since someone put a design for the top on here I figured that the rest of the units he drafted were ripe for the picking.

Nope. He's one of several of Scapemage's drafts that I scooped up, including the Atom (Al Pratt) and Wildcat (Ted Grant) as well. And one or two others I'm drawing a blank on at the moment.

I haven't completely settled on his third power yet, though, so it's good to see some food for thought here!

[laughing matter]

Originally Posted by IAmBatman

Nope. He's one of several of Scapemage's drafts that I scooped up, including the Atom (Al Pratt) and Wildcat (Ted Grant) as well. And one or two others I'm drawing a blank on at the moment.

I haven't completely settled on his third power yet, though, so it's good to see some food for thought here!

well, glad to feed you. What do you think of the morsels we've given you to taste?

[IAmBatman]

Interesting approach. Very different than what I have, though. The main thing I'm still trying to decide on is what exactly his interaction with the Manhunters should be and whether it should be more of a leadership/OM hub role, or more what I currently have. The leadership power here is OK, but not enough to win me over yet.

[laughing matter]

Originally Posted by IAmBatman

Interesting approach. Very different than what I have, though. The main thing I'm still trying to decide on is what exactly his interaction with the Manhunters should be and whether it should be more of a leadership/OM hub role, or more what I currently have. The leadership power here is OK, but not enough to win me over yet.

well basically he just found the manhunters , upgraded them with kryptonian technology, and programed to obey his every command. Leadership seems good to me, but order marker management would be pretty good too

[Gardevoir]

Originally Posted by Lazy Orang

Okay, here are my suggestions for the Nemo design - I'm trying to capture the complete awesome nature of the Nautilus. Suggestions in bold:

The Captain Of The Nautilus power seems pretty good to me, although wording needs to be tweaked and it seems as though it could be shortened quite a bit. Not too sure about the idea of it being a Glyph though, but then how else could you represent it other than as a DO, which is probably going to be very difficult to find. Although the Defensive Shock power looks good, I feel a roll of 13 is a bit low and would be too over powered, and I don't see how it is relevant to the Nautilus (I don't know a great amount about The League Of Extraordinary Gentlemen so feel free to prove me wrong). Overall though I think it looks good and is more interesting than my original idea.

[IAmBatman]

Originally Posted by laughing matter

well basically he just found the manhunters , upgraded them with kryptonian technology, and programed to obey his every command. Leadership seems good to me, but order marker management would be pretty good too

I figured it out. The mentions of him in this thread proved inspirational, so thanks!

[Ronin]

I have to say I preferred the original version of the Nautilus power. It was thematic, simple, and useful.

Also, "Defensive Shock" seems like a misleading name for an attacking power. Something to the tune of "Electrified Hull" might work

[laughing matter]

Originally Posted by IAmBatman

I figured it out. The mentions of him in this thread proved inspirational, so thanks!

Glad to help.

[Lazy Orang]

Originally Posted by Gardevoir

The Captain Of The Nautilus power seems pretty good to me, although wording needs to be tweaked and it seems as though it could be shortened quite a bit. Not too sure about the idea of it being a Glyph though, but then how else could you represent it other than as a DO, which is probably going to be very difficult to find. Although the Defensive Shock power looks good, I feel a roll of 13 is a bit low and would be too over powered, and I don't see how it is relevant to the Nautilus (I don't know a great amount about The League Of Extraordinary Gentlemen so feel free to prove me wrong). Overall though I think it looks good and is more interesting than my original idea.

Reply to Red: I'm sure a better mechanical wordsmith than I could reword it to be more elegant. That's simply the best I could do. Where's Sir Galahad when you need him!
Reply to Blue: Yeah, not to mention the fact that it's probably too big for a DO to work well - though if anyone could find a good one, then it could possibly be reworked with that in mind.
Reply to Green: I disagree, as 1) it's only once per round; 2) he has to give up his attack, meaning you aren't inflicting any wounds; 3) removing an OM is nice, but not catastrophic; and 4) it only affects figures close to the Glyph of Nautilus, which means much of the time it will be fairly easy to avoid. I think that if the roll's raised too much higher, it's probably in danger of never being used.
Reply to Purple: I'll admit, I don't know the League of Extraordinary Gentlemen either. I have, however, read Twenty Thousand Leagues Under the Sea, and it is on that that I'm basing my ideas for Nemo, in the hopes that the comic version doesn't diverge too far from the one in the novel. In the novel, at one point some natives attacked the Nautilus while it had run aground for a time. To repel them, Nemo was able to electrify the hull, not enough to cause harm (hence the lack of wounds) but enough to cause them great discomfort and to force them to abandon their attack - I felt this would be something cool to represent to make the design a little more interesting, and Order Marker removal seemed the best way to do it. Thinking about it, Ronin is right that Electrified Hull is a much better and more descriptive name for it than Defensive Shock.

EDIT: Just noticed a slight error I made with typing up the Captain of the Nautilus power before - at one point it mentioned putting a figure on the Glyph of Nautilus rather than the Glyph of Nautilus's card, which it should have said. This is the correct version.