Jschild's Map Thread

[jschild]

Well, I've finally decided to muster up enough courage to try this out. First, I want to thank everyone who helped develop Virtualscape. It's simply amazing. Second, I'm not afraid of constructive criticism, so please, let me know if this map has any major flaws. Thanks!

My first map is Dungeon Lake....



and can be downloaded here...

http://www.heroscapers.com/community...o=file&id=2842

Added Jungle Run... This is a fairly simple map. It's range friendly in the sense it's fairly wide open, but there are few terrain obstacles to melee armies and multiple jungle bushes to help provide cover.



Download link is here...

http://www.heroscapers.com/community...o=file&id=2844

Added Tight Quarters...another simple map, smaller in size and heavy on the LoS blockers to help melee....might just remove the higher area in the middle and add the large tree there. Thoughts?

http://www.heroscapers.com/downloads...arters_07t.jpg

http://www.heroscapers.com/community...o=file&id=2845

Again, thanks in advance for any help or suggestions!

[Lamaclown]

I like the overall build, it is very aesthetically pleasing to me and I like how the Glyphs of Rannveig affect only your opponent.

My concern would be for melee figs. If a player got a range pod to the center high ground he could tear apart any melee since they could advance either slowly through the water or only single file across the bridge.

That is just my , I am definitely no expert.

[jschild]

Originally Posted by Lamaclown

I like the overall build, it is very aesthetically pleasing to me and I like how the Glyphs of Rannveig affect only your opponent.

My concern would be for melee figs. If a player got a range pod to the center high ground he could tear apart any melee since they could advance either slowly through the water or only single file across the bridge.

That is just my , I am definitely no expert.

It's one thing I was indeed looking at. That's why I put in the roads to let the armies get to the middle very quickly, but it being single file could indeed be an issue. Might have to widen it to 2 lanes to up how many people you push forward. The row of water closest to the large ruins could be replaced with a row of roads to allow troops to surge ahead a bit. I'll have to play around with it some more tonight and see if that helps some. Probably a knights vs 4th matchup to see how much it favors range vs. melee.

[AMIS]

A two player game with a neutral squad of 4th in the center (for use by each at the end of their turn - movement not allowed from the center) would be an amazing battle.

Very nice map.

[Killometer]

Start zones are the two 24-hex rock plates?

Like Lamaclown said, a melee force would have a very difficult time assaulting a ranged pod established on the central high ground. The combination of 2 hex wide water, battlements and only one real path there is a killer You could weaken that position somewhat by making the top level of each central step road instead of concrete-that way an attacking force could climb to adjacency much more quickly-and/or adding an additional path there.

Now that the meanness is out of the way, I also agree with Lamaclown that it is a very aesthetically pleasing map-I like the use of all gray tiles-and I like the mechanic you used for the Brandar Glyphs. I also really like your placement of Sturla on the highest central part of the map; I think that it could add some very interesting early-to-mid game strategizing (do you try to save it for when you have more dead units to try to revive, or do you effectively waste it to take the key point of the map right away?)

[jschild]

Sorry yes, need to upload a new picture - the PDF has the correct images but that was the first image I saved.

And thanks AMIS and Killometer - I'll play with a few different variations on it tonight to balance it a bit more for melee.

[yagyuninja]

Congratulations on your first foray into the woolly world of map making. (3 alliteration pairs...words are fun!)

That map is very nice looking; nice symmetry. It makes me want to play vipers, or kyrie.

Also, it looks like you used the double-thick water tiles. Is that your aesthetic preference, or an accident?

[MegaSilver]

Neat map, jschild! Nice to see you trying your hand at map-making (via VS)!

I haven't the time to look at it closely, so I can't say anything more important.



And, if you want, you could build a tourney-worthy map that can debut at my tourney on the 13th!

MegaSilver

[jschild]

Originally Posted by yagyuninja

Congratulations on your first foray into the woolly world of map making. (3 alliteration pairs...words are fun!)

That map is very nice looking; nice symmetry. It makes me want to play vipers, or kyrie.

Also, it looks like you used the double-thick water tiles. Is that your aesthetic preference, or an accident?

Oh, that's what Water(2) is. I thought it was Sparkly Water (which would be 1) and regular water (which would have been 2).

The 2 brandar glyphs at prevent your opponents figures from flying are their to prevent flyers from dominating the map.

[Lamaclown]

Originally Posted by jschild

Oh, that's what Water(2) is. I thought it was Sparkly Water (which would be 1) and regular water (which would have been 2).

The 2 brandar glyphs at prevent your opponents figures from flying are their to prevent flyers from dominating the map.

I never knew that either.

Honestly, I thought the only difference was that with Water (1) you could click and drag to make water and with Water (2) you had to place them one at a time to make water and with Water (3) you drink a whole lot to make water... oh, wait.

Well, you learn something new everyday.

[jschild]

This isn't the full PDF, just an image, but would this help out a melee army some in everyone's opinion? Do I need more land next to the starting zone still?



EDIT: A bit clearer view of the extra terrain by the water (should it be road as well?)

[jschild]

Added Jungle Run, download link at the top...



EDIT: Think my next map will be something very small and intense - I'm being too nice to ranged armies.