Question re: Competitive Play and x5 and x6 Commons

[Chris Perkins]

Originally Posted by Brewster

The only *Competitive* Units I would play as 5x or 6x are 4th Mass, Fire Elemental, Stingers, Dividers, and Rats.

Everything else IMO you would either never need more than 4x of, or it's not really that competitive. (I love Drones and Zombies as much as the next guy but I don't think they are competitive)

At a 24 figure limit, most (if not all) of the top mele-bonding squads should fit into this category as well. Consider the following builds:
- Knights x5, Gilbert (455 points)
- Heavies x5, Grimnak, Nerak (520 points)
- Romans x5, Marcus, MBS, NGS (490 points)
- Dwarves x5, Mogrimm, Darak (530 points)
- Death Chasters x5, MBS, Nerak, Raelin (455 points)

Obviously you could always add more bonding heroes instead of extra squads, but for many of these in the 450 - 550 point range (pretty tournament standard) these are the base builds you'd pick if you had a point total near where each army fits in (i.e. Thorgrim/Finn is almost always worse than the 5th squad of Knights).

[Brewster]

Originally Posted by Chris Perkins

At a 24 figure limit, most (if not all) of the top mele-bonding squads should fit into this category as well. Consider the following builds:
- Knights x5, Gilbert (455 points)
- Heavies x5, Grimnak, Nerak (520 points)
- Romans x5, Marcus, MBS, NGS (490 points)
- Dwarves x5, Mogrimm, Darak (530 points)
- Death Chasters x5, MBS, Nerak, Raelin (455 points)

Obviously you could always add more bonding heroes instead of extra squads, but for many of these in the 450 - 550 point range (pretty tournament standard) these are the base builds you'd pick if you had a point total near where each army fits in (i.e. Thorgrim/Finn is almost always worse than the 5th squad of Knights).

I'm willing to say that it might just be a personal preference, but I'd almost always opt for an additional bonding hero or some utility filler over the 5th squad of any of these. While I can see that the 5th squad makes the whole army cohesive, there's something to be said for your whole army not being all the same thing.

As an example, I would rather play

Eldgrim
Alistair
Gilbert
KoW x3

than

Gilbert
Kow x5

Is it objectively better to play more knights? I don't know, but having a heavy hitter hero makes me a bit more confident in matchups that could just melt squaddies.