Venom (Flash Thompson)

[Ronin]

Venom (Flash Thompson)



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NAME = VENOM
IDENTITY = VENOM/FLASH THOMPSON

UNIQUENESS = UNIQUE HERO
SPECIES = SYMBIOTE
CLASS = SOLDIER
PERSONALITY = CONFLICTED

SIZE/HEIGHT = MEDIUM 5

LIFE = 5

MOVE = 6
RANGE = 5
ATTACK = 4
DEFENSE = 6

POINTS = 240

CALLING THE PLAY
During his ordered activation, Venom has Stealth and can attack twice per normal attack action.

WEB SWING 4 SPECIAL MOVE
Move 4. Height 40.
Venom gains Flying.

SYMBIOTE RAGE
When attacking an adjacent figure, Venom has +1 Attack for each wound on this card. After combat, if Venom added to his attack with this ability and inflicted 1+ wounds, end his attack action.

FACTION = AVENGERS
PUBLISHER = MARVEL
KEYWORDS =
SYMBOLS = SONIC WEAKNESS, SUPER STRENGTH

SPRING 2024 - ANNIVERSARY: Flash Thompson the bully always wanted to be more like his hero, the Amazing Spider-Man! His partnership with the Venom Symbiote finally gives him a chance to prove his mettle as a hero... if the two can control their darker impulses.

Resources and Rulings
• The suggested figure for this unit is a Heroclix figure: Fantastic Four #055 / Agent Venom
• See this card's wiki page for synergies and strategies!

Credits
• Legacy design: Ronin
• Card art: Ronin
• Flash Thompson created by Stan Lee and Steve Ditko
• Spider-Man's alien costume created by Randy Schueller, Roger Stern, Tom DeFalco, Mike Zeck, and Ron Frenz
• Venom created by David Michelinie and Todd McFarlane
• Flash Thompson as Venom introduced by Dan Slott, Paolo Siquiera, and Ronan Cliquet

Updates
• N/A

[Ronin]

No big changes from 1.0, but a few little QoL changes to ease some of his downsides:

+ Can get Stealth on his normal move
+ Special move has +1 Move
+ Rage boost can go to +4 instead of +3
+ He can get two adjacent (and therefore rage-boosted) attacks
--> wounding cuts the attack action short so he can only get a second crack at a big boosted attack if he botches the first attempt
~ Avengers faction, Venom identity
- No Stealth on the special move outside of ordered activations

Could also see switching the name back to Agent Venom. I could go either way on that honestly, both are correct and having the Venom identity means that's still there for synergy call-outs.

Personally I don't think the changes need testing and would likely propose right to editing. But open to thoughts if people want a sanity check.

[Margloth]

Question on these new Dual Identity things... I'm assuming the intent here is not to make this Venom undraftable with Eddie Venom, correct? But if this is the case, can I draft regular Flash Thompson with Venom Flash? What's the rule distinction here?

Or am I way off base and this guy keeps you from drafting Eddie Venom?

[MrNobody]

Originally Posted by Margloth

Question on these new Dual Identity things... I'm assuming the intent here is not to make this Venom undraftable with Eddie Venom, correct? But if this is the case, can I draft regular Flash Thompson with Venom Flash? What's the rule distinction here?

Or am I way off base and this guy keeps you from drafting Eddie Venom?

The intent is that this guy is both Venom and Flash Thompson, so you wouldn’t be able to draft either of those guys if you brought this guy.

[Soundwarp SG-1]

Definitely dig the lack of cap on the rage power. I'm not big on caps in general but especially when it was like 1 attack difference

[Ronin]

Originally Posted by MrNobody

The intent is that this guy is both Venom and Flash Thompson, so you wouldn’t be able to draft either of those guys if you brought this guy.

Yeah, what Nobody said!

Mostly the dual identity stuff got brought in as a way to track the symbiote itself as a character and be able to call it out and give it equal billing with the host.

Originally Posted by Soundwarp SG-1

Definitely dig the lack of cap on the rage power. I'm not big on caps in general but especially when it was like 1 attack difference

Yeah the cap was very trivial to spend text on, felt like it made sense to just let him have a thing.

[IAmBatman]

Looks good. No notes.

[Ronin]

Let's send him to editing

[MrNobody]

Yea

[Arch-vile]

yea

I'd move the web swing to the top, but I remember you liking those at the bottom so not a big deal with it as is.

[Ronin]

oh right. I don't mind accommodating people wanting those earlier, just had it that way already. I think I'd put it second over first though. First ability's main heat is during the attack phase but it's really kind of a "whole activation after revealing an OM" thing.

[Arch-vile]

That makes sense.