The C3G Cave - Hangout

[A3n]

Yeah Bats you got it. I like the Silence also & I think the new Cybermen are much scarier than the original. Always loved the Daleks but they just don't seem as scary anymore as opposed to when I was a kid & they used to invade my nightmares.

Man of Steel,

Spoiler Alert!

I loved it. I love origin stories (as long as there are follow-up movies ). I loved the destruction, I thought it paid tribute to the original Christopher Reeves Superman, bolstering up it's original vision with modern CG effects.

I loved the new take on the costumes & how they told part of the story also.

I agree with you TB about Jonathan Kent not being an inspiring role model & that did disappoint me a bit, but I think Kevin played the role he was given very well. But I also felt that that was part of the journey that CK undertook in this storyline. He was conflicted as was Jonathan. Jonathan was a good man but had to make those sort choices to keep his son safe & as such forced that secrecy onto CK who really wanted to help also. It was this journey that was inspiring, to be able to come out of that shadowy feeling & find his origins that gives birth to a new hero.

Is it inspiring in the truth, justice & American way sense, no. But I believe there is room for that in future movies (fingers crossed that there is more than just one additional).

I also disagree with you on the whole Superman breaking Zod's neck thing. That isn't Superman. Superman is the role model that other Superheroes aspire to. Even Batman has admitted to wanting to live to his morals. Superman holds back so he doesn't kill, even to the point where he has almost died himself to maintain that morality. But it did kind of suit this Superman & his life journey. I just hope that they can grow this Superman to be the moral compass that he was created to be.

One thing that did annoy me that obviously affected you similarly was the kiss with Lois. He doesn't know her yet, nor she him. It just felt forced. I can get passed the fact that Lois knows his true identity (there are a few comic story lines where this is the case & they did do that in a logical way), but it was a little disappointing that that secrecy will not be part of the future stories.

My biggest gripe though was that there was no character development for Lois or any of the other Daily Planet people we know & love. But I am hopeful that that was deliberate so the movie could just focus on Superman's origin & that we will see that development in the sequel.

[Tornado]

Davros rules.

[Hahma]

Watched Man of Steel today with the kids:

I've never been a fan of Superman really. I get it that he has moral dilemmas that balance out his crazy power set. But that's never been my thing, as I've always gravitated to more of the street level heroes, or ones with less power levels.

But to the movie:

Spoiler Alert!

Just like the last Batman movie where unrealistically every stupid cop in Gotham runs underground, there's no way in he!! that all Clark's classmates are going to be hanging around outside of the closet while his teacher and then mother are trying to get him out. Are you kidding me?! That would not be allowed. But I guess they did it for even more effect to show of Clark's mutant realization moments of freakdom while growing up.

No way in heck Lois is scaling the glacier to follow some strange guy into a ice tunnel that wasn't there until he melted it. I get that she's "adventurous" and all, but that was pretty stupid. Not to mention the fact that she would traveling around like someone important, and getting all kinds of access throughout was kind of silly to me.

I agree that the Superman/Lois lovefest was annoying.

Zod and Jor-El's fight scene was lame to me. Goofy fake useless armor, not my thing.

Not big on Supes breaking Zod's neck. He could have found another way, though the writers kind of painted him in a corner as Zod was getting stronger and stronger and was vastly superior to Supes in fighting ability from training. So at that point, Supes couldn't likely overcome Zod. Though the way it was going, there wasn't much else he could do.

Not overly big on Supes being likened to Jesus in the church.


Okay, those were some gripes. But there was some good of course too.

Interesting styling and artsy in a sense early on. I liked that.

I see what people were saying about John Kent not being so inspiring and all, but I disagree in a sense. Unknowing of Jor-El's intentions to have Supes grow up of free will to make his own decisions, John Kent did the same. He told him that he would have to decide the person he wanted to be (good/evil). He didn't say that he should have let those kids die on the bus, he was like "maybe, I don't know" or something. Again, that was allowing Supes to define himself, despite the risk. By not letting Supes save him in the tornado, John also showed the value of sacrifice to protect the ones you love.

I did like the fight scenes and while it did go on for awhile, when dealing with dudes with powers like Supes and his fellow Kryptonians, it's going to take awhile to take them out unless someone's sporting some Kryptonite. Got to love flying trains. I like how the bad chick fought the best. She was the coolest of all of them, Supes included.

I liked it, didn't love it. I liked the artsy style of it. I liked the way Clark grew to define who he was going to be throughout the complications of being who he was. I liked the action elements. Thing I didn't like were mostly nitpicky things and not enough to keep me from enjoying it.

[Ninja Status]

[A3n]

Just back from Doctor Who, & it happened, I was right. (Remember an earlier post that I said I like a good time paradox, that was me now back then )

There were lots of references throughout the movie to the past fifty years. There was heaps of funny dialogue, & the whole movie was a fun joyous ride. I'm not giving anything away, but it sets up the following seasons in a fantastic brilliant way.

[cwidje]

Originally Posted by A3n

Just back from Doctor Who, & it happened, I was right. (Remember an earlier post that I said I like a good time paradox, that was me now back then )

There were lots of references throughout the movie to the past fifty years. There was heaps of funny dialogue, & the whole movie was a fun joyous ride. I'm not giving anything away, but it sets up the following seasons in a fantastic brilliant way.

For those of us that have only just got through Season 6, how much spoilerage would there be?

[A3n]

Actually I would say next to none. There will be a handful of references that you won't pickup but they don't affect the story at all.

[davidlhsl]

This isn't a spoiler, but the Doctors did drink tea.

[Karat]

Finally watched this week's AoS. Interesting plot twist.

[darkraptor5413]

Just wishing everyone a happy Thanksgiving

[Tornado]

[Yodaking]

Who is serving the Turkey on the DC side? She is not very appropriately dressed for the occasion.