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Old September 9th, 2023, 09:12 PM
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Re: Colossus (Piotr Rasputin) - VOTE Final Edit

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I'd sanity test this one at least, it's effectively a brand new card. I think you could bring his cost down because the defensive power is significantly worse than Steel Skin/Tough.
Fair enough. I'm out of commission on testing so unless someone gets a chance I'll focus on Wiki updates in my spurts of consciousness.

Would I want it to be everything I love...sure...but that's just not realistic so I'm going to focus on finding things that will make me unhappy and work on fixing those.
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Old September 9th, 2023, 09:14 PM
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Re: Colossus (Piotr Rasputin) - VOTE Final Edit

I'd like to keep him at 260 for X-Force builds I want him to jump into.

Would I want it to be everything I love...sure...but that's just not realistic so I'm going to focus on finding things that will make me unhappy and work on fixing those.
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Old September 10th, 2023, 09:57 AM
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Re: Colossus (Piotr Rasputin) - VOTE Final Edit

I'm pro-full testing here (sorry, editing earlier post). Especially if we want to make sure he hits an exact cost. I'm happy to run an initial if it's not something that has to be ultra fast.

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Re: Colossus (Piotr Rasputin) - VOTE Final Edit

Yea for testing.
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Old September 10th, 2023, 10:10 AM
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Re: Colossus (Piotr Rasputin) - VOTE Final Edit

yea for testing

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Old September 10th, 2023, 10:31 AM
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Re: Colossus (Piotr Rasputin) - VOTE Final Edit

yea for testing
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Old September 13th, 2023, 09:08 AM
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Re: Colossus (Piotr Rasputin) - INitial Testing

Moving this to Initial Testing

Would I want it to be everything I love...sure...but that's just not realistic so I'm going to focus on finding things that will make me unhappy and work on fixing those.
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Old September 13th, 2023, 10:22 AM
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Re: Colossus (Piotr Rasputin) - INitial Testing

Cool. I'll try to pair him with some map testing soon.

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Old September 15th, 2023, 10:57 PM
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Re: Colossus (Piotr Rasputin) - INitial Testing

C3G STANDARD PLAYTEST FEEDBACK FORM
NAME OF THE PLAYTEST UNIT: COLOSSUS
VERSION TESTED
Spoiler Alert!


Team Test
Map: CITY PARK (REVISED)
Units: Blob (165), Colossus (260), Death Army (400), Jason (175) (1000)
vs Fantastic Four (1000)
Unit Summary: Colossus’ stats were solid enough. Fastball Special felt lackluster here. It wasn’t really worth trying to plan around because you were mostly having to give up moving Colossus into range to attack to do it and then the figure he was throwing wouldn’t hit as hard as he would. Colossus did some solid damage but this was close and winnable by either side until the resurrections steamrolled the end game.
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  • Damage Done (Normal Attack): Inflicted [8] wounds on [Invisible Woman [1], Human Torch [4], Thing [3]]
  • FASTBALL SPECIAL: Used [1] times, inflicted [0] wounds and resulted in [1] extra attack actions
  • DURABLE 2: Saved Colossus from [1] wounds and at least two attacks that would be futile.
Who won? List figures remaining in the winning army (include life remaining for heroes): Jason with Full Life and 3 Death Army figures win.
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Team Test
Map: CITY PARK (REVISED)
Units: Colossus (260), Cyclops (240), Wolverine (280), X-23 (220) (1000) vs JL Trinity (1000)
Unit Summary: Other than the typical end game heroics by Wolverine, the X-Men went down like complete chumps here, aided in part by poor dice.
Game Summary
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  • Damage Done (Normal Attack): Inflicted [0] wounds
  • FASTBALL SPECIAL: Used [1] times, inflicted [1] wounds on [Wolverine] and resulted in [2] extra attack actions
  • DURABLE 2: Saved Colossus from [0] wounds.
Who won? List figures remaining in the winning army (include life remaining for heroes): Superman with 1/7 Life, Wonder Woman with Full Life, and Batman with Full Life win.
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Team Test
Map: CITY PARK (REVISED)
Units: Colossus (260), Cyclops (240), Wolverine (280), X-23 (220) (1000) vs Iron Man (270), Captain America (220), Quicksilver (250), and War-Machine (260) (1000)
Unit Summary: I would love to see someone try him with a Professor X/Angel/Wolverine build in group testing. I think that might be a good way to get him moved up without him having to walk, then getting the Fastball/Attack combo going on the same turn. It mostly seemed like either/or in this build. Though it was pretty brutal getting a Fastball Special attack activation with Wolverine and then Cyclops activating Wolverine for another attack phase right away. That and the initiative swing right before it probably swung the game.

Game Summary
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  • Damage Done (Normal Attack): Inflicted [0] wounds; inflicted [3] wounds on Captain America [3] with a tree.
  • FASTBALL SPECIAL: Used [3] times, inflicted [3] wounds on [Cyclops [1], Wolverine [2]] and resulted in [6] extra attack actions
  • DURABLE 2: Saved Colossus from [0] wounds.
Who won? List figures remaining in the winning army (include life remaining for heroes): Colossus with 2 of 6 Life and Wolverine with Full Life win.
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UNIT SUMMARY: He’s tough to maximize and easier to kill overall than 1.0, but he can stick around for sure, can do damage when his dice get hot, and his best combination is clearly Wolverine, which is good to see.

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Re: Colossus (Piotr Rasputin) - INitial Testing

So Durability power didn't seem to do much here it seems.only once in the three game he would have taken more than 2 wounds and he used it to shrug off 1?

Not understanding what you meant by this in the first test...

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DURABLE 2: Saved Colossus from [1] wounds and at least two attacks that would be futile.

Would I want it to be everything I love...sure...but that's just not realistic so I'm going to focus on finding things that will make me unhappy and work on fixing those.
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Re: Colossus (Piotr Rasputin) - INitial Testing

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So Durability power didn't seem to do much here it seems.only once in the three game he would have taken more than 2 wounds and he used it to shrug off 1?

Not understanding what you meant by this in the first test...

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DURABLE 2: Saved Colossus from [1] wounds and at least two attacks that would be futile.
I mean that the opponent had attacks they could use that they made against his allies instead of Colossus, because Colossus had already taken 2 wounds that turn. I think it's largely an ability where you just won't be attacked more on certain turns rather than avoiding terribly many wounds.

So it *does* help his survivability (you can't just nuke him in a turn) but that's not going to show up in a ton of avoided wounds unless your opponent just likes banging their head against a brick wall.

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Re: Colossus (Piotr Rasputin) - INitial Testing

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So Durability power didn't seem to do much here it seems.only once in the three game he would have taken more than 2 wounds and he used it to shrug off 1?

Not understanding what you meant by this in the first test...

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DURABLE 2: Saved Colossus from [1] wounds and at least two attacks that would be futile.
I mean that the opponent had attacks they could use that they made against his allies instead of Colossus, because Colossus had already taken 2 wounds that turn. I think it's largely an ability where you just won't be attacked more on certain turns rather than avoiding terribly many wounds.

So it *does* help his survivability (you can't just nuke him in a turn) but that's not going to show up in a ton of avoided wounds unless your opponent just likes banging their head against a brick wall.
Awesome. That makes sense. It just wasn't clicking in my head last night when I read it. Thanks for the clarification.

Would I want it to be everything I love...sure...but that's just not realistic so I'm going to focus on finding things that will make me unhappy and work on fixing those.
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