Fourth World Workshop (New Gods/Apokolips)

[Lazy Orang]

If the Parademons' 'all skulls rolled for a bonus' is going to be something of an aesthetic for Apokoliptian forces, perhaps an attack bonus based on re-rolling skulls would be a good idea, rather than a standard attack boost? Make those powers more likely? Don't know if that needs to be on Darkseid or some other 'connective tissue' unit, but I think it could work.


One thing I'd like to say though is I'd like to avoid making a Darkseid vII a necessary 'hub' unit for an Apokoliptian build - it would leave the first version of Darkseid out in the cold and, if he's a higher level Event Hero, it would leave less room for army building. I'd rather see connective tissue that makes building an Apokoliptian army with either Darkseid vI or vII viable (or one using other New God heroes instead, potentially). This is the issue I tend to have with the Asgardians as a faction - once I've drafted Odin I struggle to find room to build an Asgardian army. I wouldn't like to see a second Darkseid 'overwrite' the current one from future Apokolips builds - I genuinely think we should endeavour to make either version a viable one to build your army round.

[MrNobody]

Originally Posted by Lazy Orang

If the Parademons' 'all skulls rolled for a bonus' is going to be something of an aesthetic for Apokoliptian forces, perhaps an attack bonus based on re-rolling skulls would be a good idea, rather than a standard attack boost? Make those powers more likely? Don't know if that needs to be on Darkseid or some other 'connective tissue' unit, but I think it could work.

I like this idea a lot. If the Apokolips units have a lot of similar “all skulls” powers it would also encourage playing Darkseid with his actual allies instead of his enemies who just happen to share a species.

Originally Posted by Lazy Orang

One thing I'd like to say though is I'd like to avoid making a Darkseid vII a necessary 'hub' unit for an Apokoliptian build - it would leave the first version of Darkseid out in the cold and, if he's a higher level Event Hero, it would leave less room for army building. I'd rather see connective tissue that makes building an Apokoliptian army with either Darkseid vI or vII viable (or one using other New God heroes instead, potentially). This is the issue I tend to have with the Asgardians as a faction - once I've drafted Odin I struggle to find room to build an Asgardian army. I wouldn't like to see a second Darkseid 'overwrite' the current one from future Apokolips builds - I genuinely think we should endeavour to make either version a viable one to build your army round.

This is a valid point. I think maybe basing a Darkseid II around light New Gods synergy and Anti-Life would work. Maybe based around Final Crisis?