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Re: Is Taelord really that bad?
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Another way to say roughly the same thing is that you're usually better off killing the figures getting the order markers first, and taking out Taelord at the end when he isn't boosting anything dangerous. It's rare that it works out the other way, and when it does that usually a good thing for the Taelord army. Basically, Taelord is tough enough that he's not the first thing you try to kill, which means his stats are good enough. With that in mind, whether Taelord is worth it becomes a simple question: are you helped more by more core offensive figures, or by adding offense to the figures that are already there? Due to Taelord's cost, the answer is generally the former, but he's not as overpriced as you might think at first. Make him cost 140 and he would be in a lot of armies. |
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Re: Is Taelord really that bad?
I would argue that if you make him 140 he's broken. I could almost be ok with him costing 160 but much lower than that and you are looking at a broken figure.
Thank you for getting what I was trying to say. My Map Thread My Battle Blog and Strategy Blog and Article Links. OVAH site. Sept. 19, 2010 - ITS A BOY |
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Re: Is Taelord really that bad?
He is at his best in a turtle. But he could also be used in a Steam Roller (not Gladiators et all) type army with some OM trouble. Of course if you're using a Minions they can simply use their Utgar's Orders to move him up.
He simply takes a lot of practice and skill to play well. My Map Thread My Battle Blog and Strategy Blog and Article Links. OVAH site. Sept. 19, 2010 - ITS A BOY |
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I still submit that they costed him they way they did because if he didn't cost as much as he does then he would then be severely undercosted in high point games. I mean, remember, Raelin covering 20 figures is infinitely more valuable than Raelin coveirng 2 figures. Well, the same goes for Taelord. Taelord boosting 15 snipers and a bunch of other units is infinitely more valuable than Taelord boosting 6 snipers.
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Re: Is Taelord really that bad?
There seems to be a split in what people think here, but am surprised how many people actually don't mind Taelord. I think Taelord could be the base for an excellent army, there are just some factors to take into account first.
Although maybe he could use with a cheap squad to bond with. Last edited by footsoldier13; October 15th, 2009 at 01:02 PM. |
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Secondly, I would wager that he definatly has the potential to earn his points if the squad is built around his bonus. Additionally in multiplayer games, he's unreal. I played a 2v2 with a number of friends, and the squad that decimated the game was: Taelord (180) Syvarris (280) Omnicron Snipers (380) Marro Stingers x 2 (500) Syvarris ended up grabbing height with a Izumi Samurai screen from his partner, and ended most units with his range. Syvarris eventually died to Zetacron, but was quickly replaced by advancing swarm of Marro Stingers. 3 Attacks of 6 (3base + 1tae + 1special + 1 height) is good game . try him in a 4 player game, 180 seems too low at that point! |
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Re: Is Taelord really that bad?
With just 500 points of units, yes he is that bad.
Now if one were to do a 5000 point battle, he could be of considerable value. Patience Drain After loading and before posting, roll the twenty-sided die. On a 1, Therion makes a long and/or irritating post. On a 2-15, Therion may not post this turn. On a 16+, post normally. |
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Re: Is Taelord really that bad?
Taelord is much better than any of you are giving him credit for. The other day (yesterday) I used him in a 500-point game and he was the very reason I won, due to a Krug<--Taelord<-->Minions combo.
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So no, Taelord is NOT that bad. When you could be using him OR the Minions, and when he makes Krug an un-ignorable immediate threat, he's one of the best in my book. Key phrase here being one of the. Not true. I Steamrolled well with him in a 500-point 2-player fight (see above) |
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I never really thought of a Taelord-Syvarris Army, but I think I'll try It! |
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Re: Is Taelord really that bad?
I think that Taelord is a good example of how Heroscape is a much deeper game than the tournament only idea. With prebuilt tournament style armies fighting kill em all scenarios on tournament style maps, Taelord is not going to be a great choice in most armies. He is a big investment that takes a lot of skill and finesse to really pull off. Army build is very important. Order Marker management becomes more critical with those extra points riding on it. When it goes right, it is ugly for your opponent. When it goes wrong, it is just ugly.
However, throw in higher points, drafting, and/or other types of maps and scenarios and he might be a very wise choice. Taelord is ridiculous in certain circumstances. Try being the guy on the ground looking up at the 4th Mass on a 2 high castle wall with Taelord chillin' in back. In that case Taelord is bad in the '80's sense of the word. 4 attacks of 5 is not something that you want to be on the receiving end. He's just not something that you can fit into every army and situation. Follow the adventures of Agent Minivann
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