The Book of Marro Gnids

[Dad_Scaper]

Yup, the link is messed up. I'll fix it momentarily (I think).

edit: Fixing it is beyond my meager html-fu skills. It'll be fixed as soon as I can recruit sufficiently talented help.

[nate the dawg]

Originally Posted by Dad_Scaper

Yup, the link is messed up. I'll fix it momentarily (I think).

Thanks! I'd had no difficultly getting the other C3V cards, and I had begun to think that it was a problem on my end!

[Taeblewalker]

Originally Posted by Tai-Pan

CLING
When a card with Marro Gnids on it is destroyed, the Marro Gnids remain on the card and, like the card, are removed from play. They do not count as destroyed, nor may they be brought back into the game by the Marro Hive, the Glyph of Revival, or any other means.


Like this?

They are like undropped Airborne Elite, or unsummoned Rechets of Bogden. We're working on the OP FAQ's.

[robbdaman]

Originally Posted by nate the dawg

Thanks! I'd had no difficultly getting the other C3V cards, and I had begun to think that it was a problem on my end!

Just grab it from the downloads section.

http://www.heroscapers.com/community...o=file&id=3395

[Taeblewalker]

I fixed the link to the .pdf in the OP.

[Sir Dendrik]

There's enough uber-positive support for these guys that I don't feel too "mean" voicing some skepticism which I hope the community can address.

How hard is it to get Cling off? I mean, you need a low defense hero to attack, which isn't really what most games are riddled with. Generally these will have to face a good number of squads, so how do they stack up?

My initial impression of these guys is that they're outclassed by the Blade Gruts. 10 less points, and they bond with a few fantastic heroes. Is Cling less than situational enough to overcome this? There's already been a lot of backlash against powers that destroy your own figures.

I'm just wondering what everyone thinks about Cling in realistic terms. I haven't played with these guys yet so I'm just a skeptic and not much more. 2 attack just doesn't seem like enough to crack it. I really want to hear some address to this.

[Tai-Pan]

Originally Posted by Sir Dendrik

There's enough uber-positive support for these guys that I don't feel too "mean" voicing some skepticism which I hope the community can address.

How hard is it to get Cling off? I mean, you need a low defense hero to attack, which isn't really what most games are riddled with. Generally these will have to face a good number of squads, so how do they stack up?

My initial impression of these guys is that they're outclassed by the Blade Gruts. 10 less points, and they bond with a few fantastic heroes. Is Cling less than situational enough to overcome this? There's already been a lot of backlash against powers that destroy your own figures.

I'm just wondering what everyone thinks about Cling in realistic terms. I haven't played with these guys yet so I'm just a skeptic and not much more. 2 attack just doesn't seem like enough to crack it. I really want to hear some address to this.

I think one thing in favor of Cling is using the Gnids with the Hive. Then they don't necessarily have to get a Cling shot before being killed... they can get killed and try again.

Another thing is it's a passive power. You don't opt to lose an attack die for a chance to cling, you don't roll the d20 instead of attacking, if you strike a wound, you can cling. It's a bonus feature on something you're going to be using anyways (the normal attack).

[nyys]

Any more attack die and Cling would be far too powerful. Yes it can be tough to get it to work, but once it does (even if it's just once) the hero you just hit is now critically hampered.

The loss of a defense die I think is what jumps out at everyone first, but I think the loss in movement is much more devastating and now add to it that it just got easier to get a 2nd Gnid to Cling to the same Hero since their defense has now dropped.

[Taeblewalker]

During playtesting, we found, as NYYS said, that once a single Cling works, even on a Defense 4 or 5 hero, they really start to add up fast, since the Defense of the hero drops, making it easier to Cling.
Add to that the fact that the Gnids have Move 7 and a climbing ability, which lets them get out to the enemy quickly and then easily gain height where possible.
We initially tried them with Attack 3, but with four figures, they were a very formidable force in their own right, like a fast squad of MacDirks with a permanent +1 Attack. They didn't even need to Cling - you could just field three or four squads of these guys and kick butt.
And don't forget, even as is, if you send four of these guys at Move 7 out against a squad of anything with Defense 3 or less, they aren't a bad swarm unit, though in that role, the Blade Gruts are probably better, in spite of being a bit slower than the Gnids (especially with Orc Champion Bonding). And that is as it should be! The Gnids' role is to hamper heroes, but to still have some ability to send a few out to engage enemy squad figures as a screen or even as a minor offensive while one or two of them try to get Cling to work against Nilfheim or Eltahale.

[tcglkn]

This design looks like a lot of fun guys. Nice work team.

[Dad_Scaper]

Nothing to add to the responses to Sir Dendrik except that (a) I agree with the others who have responded but (b) input like this is more than welcome, it's encouraged.

Nobody should feel shy about asking questions.

[flameslayer93]

If your worried about not having the attack power to pull off a cling, you can always look at the attack boosting units. Khosumet, for example has lots of options now with all of the Relentless love. Just pair the Gnids with him and your throwing 3 dice. Adjacency shouldn't be much of an issue either, mainly because of access to bonding the Wolves of Badru and the Death Knights as well as his already good 6 movement(plus he doesn't need Scale). I guess you can always toss in Raelin if your concerned about Khosumet staying in one piece, but he's a cheerleader anyways so he can try to draw some fire from your enemies so your Gnids can advance on their position.

These guys look like they'll be awesome versus range, they can raelly close the distance(plus the typical ranged figure has less defense than it's melee counterpart).