The Book of Zatanna (II)

[Lazy Orang]

Originally Posted by japes

I don't think that's entirely necessary. For one, this is an Arkham thread so it will likely be in Public Testing before next weekend. After that all the Allies that are into the JLD series will probably be playtesting her. None of the Ally workshopped designs will be ready for a thread before then.

Might be weird to workshop/design etc. the rest of the JLD when no one can discuss what she actually does....

[IAmBatman]

What exactly does "combat die" reference in the first power? Are you not rolling combat dice when defending or attacking with a normal or special attack?

[Yodaking]

Originally Posted by IAmBatman

What exactly does "combat die" reference in the first power? Are you not rolling combat dice when defending or attacking with a normal or special attack?

Some special powers require to you roll combat dice and the results determine an outcome, but it's not an attack or defense dice roll. Often times rolling a blank has an impact on those powers.

[IAmBatman]

Do you all feel that's clear mechanically from reading the text? Might be worth an FAQ at least. Maybe "for a special power" would help (even though special attacks are special powers too ).

[Arkham]

I feel it’s pretty clear. Combat dice are used for special powers that aren’t attacks, defense dice are defense, and attack dice for normal attacks. Not opposed to FAQ though.

[Yodaking]

We could maybe just shorten it to 'when rolling combat dice' since that alone would cover all 3 uses of the combat dice whether it be on attack, defense, or for a special power.

[johnny139]

Don't have much input (though I like the overall "tricky" vibe here, feels more iconic to the character than the more specific original version), but one thing I'd recommend is avoiding Zatara Shuffle for the third power's name - feels like kind of an obscure reference that clouds the actual connection for most people. Something more like "SLEIGHT OF HAND" feels like the obvious name. And sounds less like a retiree's dance move.

[Tornado]

The old switcheroo.

[Arkham]

Yeah, the tricky vibe was definitely something I wanted to have a strong presence.

I’m fine with a different name. MIDIRECTION or something. I’ll do some looking at magic terms for Sleight of Hand and such.

[Tornado]

Force. Though that is pretty generic.

[Arkham]

Gonna go with Sleight of Hand unless we think of something better. That’s what she’s doing after all, and the quickness of it is how she gets the unblockable hit in. It’s also clear on what it happening and is another call out to stage magic much like Trap Door Teleportation offers.

[Arkham]

Originally Posted by Lazy Orang

Might be weird to workshop/design etc. the rest of the JLD when no one can discuss what she actually does....

I’m fine releasing her soon. Could do it this month(she debuted in November), or could release her on New Years. Otherwise, we could just let them discuss what she can do. Doesn’t really matter to me. I’m game for whatever makes it easier for the faction building.