The Book of Major Q9

[Charr21]

I don't know. I haven't experience the hype that is Major Q9. At GenCon I killed him twice in less than two turns with Mogrimm once and Fen Hydra the second. It didn't do that much damage. Maybe those were lucky rolls. Right now I'm thinking he is an ok figure. But I could be wrong.

[Myst9]

Perhaps his toughness is based on the normal army composition, especially before certain expansions arrived. Maybe it's simply the meta-game changing. It's all about how he has high defense and a good chunk of life to go with it. Personally, I don't totally get the hype, but understand how evil he can be on the battlefield. One more reason to bring the Kozuke Samurai everywhere!

~Myst, the number one fan of the Kozuke.

[jschild]

Q9's only dangerous in a consistent manner when he has a screen or Raelin. He's deadly with both.

Take those away from him and he's a whiff from disaster.

That and he can absolutely murder certain armies (Goblins, Vipers, KMA) better than any other figure in the game. Versatility is his key strength, not overpowering attacks (IE, if you only roll 3 attacks of 3, you're doing it wrong. Often, 9 attacks of 1 can be more effective).

[The Disciplined Soldier]

Originally Posted by Myst9

Perhaps his toughness is based on the normal army composition, especially before certain expansions arrived. Maybe it's simply the meta-game changing. It's all about how he has high defense and a good chunk of life to go with it. Personally, I don't totally get the hype, but understand how evil he can be on the battlefield. One more reason to bring the Kozuke Samurai everywhere!

~Myst, the number one fan of the Kozuke.

I'd bring Gorillanators, Charos, Iron Golem, Major Q10 with Raelin, or Venoc Warlord with Raelin and Taelord. I think all of these units have a good chance of killing Q9.

[Robber]

How about-

Axegrinders x4- 280
Migol- 390
Theracus- 430
And add Johnny Shotgun or another squad of Dwarves. Or Darrak and isamu.

Migol can pass the screen with theracus and bomb Q9 in the start zone. Q9 may survive, but you can use extra-moved dwarves to cut the screen and finish him.

Another great option for any non-purist-

4th mass x4- 280
Captian America- 500

Basically, just pod near your starting zone. Screens that try to hold area far from the starting zone take a long time to set up and hold. While the other player spends ages trying to position Rats, Raelin, and Q9 just right, you can blast them down with wait-then-fire or some of Captain America's Sheild Throw. Q9 falls shortly to the Cap and 4 ranged attacks of 5 (Height, Wait-then-fire, Tactitian, normal attack) whether he is taken along with the rats or not.

Other great units include trons (Gs and Bs in the same army) iron golems, hydras, and Shurrak.

[Frylock]

Originally Posted by The Disciplined Soldier

I'd bring Gorillanators, Charos, Iron Golem, Major Q10 with Raelin, or Venoc Warlord with Raelin and Taelord. I think all of these units have a good chance of killing Q9.

The only one of these I take issue with is Gorillinators. Remember, Tough doesn't work against Queglix. Q9 is at the top of a long list of figures who can dominate the Gorillas.

[The Disciplined Soldier]

Originally Posted by Frylock

The only one of these I take issue with is Gorillinators. Remember, Tough doesn't work against Queglix. Q9 is at the top of a long list of figures who can dominate the Gorillas.

Oops. I guess. Romans might be good against Q9. If you get 2 or more of these squads and Marcus Decimus Gallus with them they could have enough mobility and attack along with enough defense because of Shield Wall to get up next to him and hopefully kill him. Krav Maga would be even better 'cause they wouldn't even need to get near him.

[Arrow Grut]

Originally Posted by The Disciplined Soldier

Oops. I guess. Romans might be good against Q9. If you get 2 or more of these squads and Marcus Decimus Gallus with them they could have enough mobility and attack along with enough defense because of Shield Wall to get up next to him and hopefully kill him. Krav Maga would be even better 'cause they wouldn't even need to get near him.

Romans are bad agianst Q9 'cause rats or any other screen will stop them dead in thier tracks, and once engaged they have to spread out get 4 attacks on Q9 (usually.) The Krav are bad cause one, JUST ONE, has to succumb to the withering fire of Q9 9 attacks of 1 to be weakened significantly.

[sixthflagbearer]

A word to the wise: Make sure that the last units in your army when you are facing Q9 are not deathreavers .

[The Disciplined Soldier]

Originally Posted by sixthflagbearer

A word to the wise: Make sure that the last units in your army when you are facing Q9 are not deathreavers .

The last units you draft or the last units you have left alive? I'm confused.
I could see it if they were the last ones left alive. I mean rolling 1 atk. die against a Q9 is pretty much useless.
I wonder if an elf army could take down Q9? Some of 'em might be able to get close enough. Arkmer, Emiroon, Chadris, Kyntella Gwyn, and Uglinesh together might be enough.

[Elginb]

If we're talking about an end-game with a couple squads of Deathreavers vs. a wounded Q9, I don't think Deathreavers are necessarily that bad. They can't use scatter, but 4 defense and 6 move is good on its own. Sure, they only have 1 attack, but they can use it 4 times per activation. If you had 8 Deathreavers vs. a Q9 with 2 life, I think you'd stand a reasonable chance of winning.

[rym]

Originally Posted by The Disciplined Soldier

I could see it if they were the last ones left alive. I mean rolling 1 atk. die against a Q9 is pretty much useless.

Originally Posted by Elginb

If we're talking about an end-game with a couple squads of Deathreavers vs. a wounded Q9, I don't think Deathreavers are necessarily that bad. . . . I think you'd stand a reasonable chance of winning.

True story: In a team tournament several years ago, my partner and I failed to win one of our games (which ended up keeping us in the bottom bracket) because not one, but two, Deathreavers rolled to attack Q9 (already with 2 wounds) and we whiffed defense not once, but twice.

So yeah, it can happen.