The Book of Mon-El

[Spidey'tilIDie]

I have an idea, but I need to do some research to see if its viable. Can you give me 24 hours to research and post before you settle on a direction?

[MrNobody]

Originally Posted by Spidey'tilIDie

I have an idea, but I need to do some research to see if its viable. Can you give me 24 hours to research and post before you settle on a direction?

Sure man, although if you could give us a hint it could maybe save you some research time?

[Spidey'tilIDie]

Originally Posted by MrNobody

Sure man, although if you could give us a hint it could maybe save you some research time?

Basically, I'm going to research the gun powers on every card. See if I can't find a pretty frequent common denominator.

[IAmBatman]

Is that even relevant, though? Per A3n, he's immune to Lead most of the time due to his Antidote. Honestly, I wouldn't bother trying to represent it at all based on that (except on Lead himself, perhaps).

[Spidey'tilIDie]

Originally Posted by IAmBatman

Is that even relevant, though? Per A3n, he's immune to Lead most of the time due to his Antidote. Honestly, I wouldn't bother trying to represent it at all based on that (except on Lead himself, perhaps).

In most Legionnaire stories, I'd agree. But they don't use conventional firearms anymore in the 31st Century, its one of the reasons he is OK there. The Earth has a much cleaner atmosphere and Lead is not as prevalent in their society. I recall that they let him out and that the Serum just halts his already infected Lead Poisoning. It doesn't cure him, its not a vaccine, as I recall. When he had a brief (yearlong or so) story where he was in the modern world, Lead Poisoning and bullets was a legit issue. He even had to wear a special suit, but whatever. Its obviously not worth the effort if everyone's mind is made up. Forget it.

[Ronin]

Yeah, it's more intuitive to me to model the lead weakness on Symbiote weaknesses to sonics - represent the weakness on Lead and anything else that's really super lead-themed. There just aren't enough of those to easily keyword and rep from Mon-El's end.

[MrNobody]

Yeah, I was going to ask about the time where he was protector of modern-day Metropolis because I'd never read those stories.

[Spidey'tilIDie]

Collected and Read 'em, but I don't seem to know what I am talking about.

[MrNobody]

Originally Posted by Spidey'tilIDie

Collected and Read 'em, but I don't seem to know what I am talking about.

Hey man, I've said nothing of the sort. You clearly have some knowledge I don't here.

[Spidey'tilIDie]

Originally Posted by MrNobody

Hey man, I've said nothing of the sort. You clearly have some knowledge I don't here.

No, you didn't. And I apologize if you felt I was calling you out personally. I wasn't, but even still I was letting a bad day color my overall reactions here, and for that you have my sincere apology. I was in general being an arse and I needed to put myself in time out to realize it.

If you're still open, I'll look at the Special Attacks tomorrow and see if I can find a keyword or two.

[MrNobody]

Originally Posted by Spidey'tilIDie

No, you didn't. And I apologize if you felt I was calling you out personally. I wasn't, but even still I was letting a bad day color my overall reactions here, and for that you have my sincere apology. I was in general being an arse and I needed to put myself in time out to realize it.

If you're still open, I'll look at the Special Attacks tomorrow and see if I can find a keyword or two.

No worries at all, I totally get how that situation could've been frustrating. I'm certainly down to hear any proposal you want to put forward. Ithink the Daxamite Defense debate may need to sit a little bit anyways until we can get a more solid idea of how strong Inspirational Valor will be.

Originally Posted by Karat

What about just making the antidote an E-Glyph at some later point to counter the effects of certain figures like Lead?

That could certainly be a possibility but it seems like it would be pretty darn niche. I've been thinking about a Brainy II that can procure Glyphs so maybe if I ever do him it can pop up there.

So for Inspirational Valor, can attack/defense +1 work realistically, or is stacking him with Cap just going to be too much? LV mentioned the idea of rerolls which certainly could work. I like the theme of a boost more because it a) feels like the Legionnaires are fighting harder more than something like rerolls would and b) the "inspiration boost" mechanic feels kind of locked down as a simple +1 boost. (Cap, Solovar, and others) But if it will drive his points up by an obscene amount then I'm not for it.

[IAmBatman]

Or possibly you're introducing new information that we didn't know before and is valuable to the debate? I think you might need a breather, though.

But I appreciate the story data - I think that's a solid argument for trying to represent it somewhere in the game. It seems the antidote didn't really protect him from, say, gunfire.